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    AceofRains's Avatar
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    Raidrien Ascher
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    EDIT: lemme get more detailed

    I see it more along the lines of

    Summoner:
    Main Class: CNJ
    Minor Class: THM PET
    The summoner is a support style charcter that can also participate in damage dealing. Giving it elemental magics and curatives alllows it to freely be a DD or fall back on support. But thats just the player. Each summon would have its own unque abilites to bring to the table. And dont say OMG THATS TOO MUCH LYKE FFXI SUMMONER, because think about it, how is a summoner supposed to exist huh?

    Beastmaster
    Main Class: PET
    Minor Classes: ??? ???

    I dont know, really but being a beastmaster means having full control. Being an absolute master of the pet class. Beastmaster should be the job, not the class.

    Puppetmaster
    Main: Either PUG or PET
    Minor: PET if PUG is Main and ???

    Puppetmaster would either be from PUG or the new pet class. in the case of pug, it would use the pet class's supporting abilites the same way a summoner does. A Close combat evasionist DD with supporting abilites of an interchanable mammet. I say pup should major PUG because there is a mammet right there in the platinum mirage.
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    Ryken Meadowhawk
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    Sargatanas
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AceofRains View Post
    EDIT: lemme get more detailed

    I see it more along the lines of

    Summoner:
    Main Class: CNJ
    Minor Class: THM PET
    The summoner is a support style charcter that can also participate in damage dealing. Giving it elemental magics and curatives alllows it to freely be a DD or fall back on support. But thats just the player. Each summon would have its own unque abilites to bring to the table. And dont say OMG THATS TOO MUCH LYKE FFXI SUMMONER, because think about it, how is a summoner supposed to exist huh?

    Beastmaster
    Main Class: PET
    Minor Classes: ??? ???

    I dont know, really but being a beastmaster means having full control. Being an absolute master of the pet class. Beastmaster should be the job, not the class.

    Puppetmaster
    Main: Either PUG or PET
    Minor: PET if PUG is Main and ???

    Puppetmaster would either be from PUG or the new pet class. in the case of pug, it would use the pet class's supporting abilites the same way a summoner does. A Close combat evasionist DD with supporting abilites of an interchanable mammet. I say pup should major PUG because there is a mammet right there in the platinum mirage.
    I like most of what you said. I just think that it would be nice to be able to use your desired pet from level 1 as well as in parties. The pet is what makes the class special. Summoner is cool, but having only 5 summoner specific abilities makes being summoner not so different from being Puppetmaster or Beastmaster. And its the same with the others as well. Going from having tamed mobs to having a puppet doesn't make much sense. The way you presented BST made much more sense, I think. You went from a Pet class to a pet job, where both are based around the same pet type, making the Job abilities mesh with the base class abilities.

    I just think it makes more sense to have the specific pet type available from level 1. And then have either 3 unique jobs, or a more generic pet job that enhances the abilities of your pet regardless of pet type.
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    Yoohree Reborn
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Wicka View Post
    I like most of what you said. I just think that it would be nice to be able to use your desired pet from level 1 as well as in parties. The pet is what makes the class special. Summoner is cool, but having only 5 summoner specific abilities makes being summoner not so different from being Puppetmaster or Beastmaster. And its the same with the others as well. Going from having tamed mobs to having a puppet doesn't make much sense. The way you presented BST made much more sense, I think. You went from a Pet class to a pet job, where both are based around the same pet type, making the Job abilities mesh with the base class abilities.

    I just think it makes more sense to have the specific pet type available from level 1. And then have either 3 unique jobs, or a more generic pet job that enhances the abilities of your pet regardless of pet type.
    Well its 5 abilities per job but dont forget if smn get ability summon garuda garuda has a ability list for herself.. This would aply to every pet for each pet job making all pet jobs very different
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoohre_WildRiver View Post
    Well its 5 abilities per job but dont forget if smn get ability summon garuda garuda has a ability list for herself.. This would aply to every pet for each pet job making all pet jobs very different
    I've actually come up with some summomer stuff as well though its not quite done yet
    I can tell you the summons are NOT primals they are more lesser. (lol oxymoron)

    I chose to work on skills forrrrr
    Carbuncle - Neutral property
    Phoenix - Fire Property
    Ixion - Thunder Property
    Fenrir - Ice Property

    the 15 minute ability would be of course astral flow but implemented waayyy different. Under this ability
    the summons get a passive influence ability, and access to their overdrive. I have no idea how SE is going to do perpetuation cost but under my idea there is not perpetuation, only under the effect of astral flow, and that is until you use your pets overdrive, which would subsequently release it from your command.

    As to why I did Fire thunder and blizzard element summons as the first 3 elemental?
    The CNJ base gives access to upper level Stone and Aero so you wont be missing out on those abilities.

    Belive me guys I've though all this thought millions of times lol Im a sucker for jobs.
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