Quote Originally Posted by Atamis View Post
And i'm not arguing against that, Ad hominem is no worse that false authority as if the two people he met on discord are somehow the consensus among SMNs.
I've been on and off maining SMN since day one myself. Was a WHM in 1.0 anticipating SMN at some point before the relaunch was announced. Since day 1 I have complained about the Egi concept. I don't like them at all, but i am willing to work around them if possible. No amount of people trying to defend the current summoner will alter that opinion. It is very clear SE themselves gave up on Egis when they decided to let people glamour them back into any color or carbuncle you had. They abandoned the leviathin and ramuh glamour plans, they abandoned Ramuh-egi in the quest line itself.
If we keep the egis, great, just make them actually part of the job and not just a dot, and for god sakes don't give me the two abilities they previously did on auto attack before. Frankly a well done Egi based summoner would just be a down scaled Yuna style summoner where you are directly controlling the summon.
I think they would be better off continuing this Trance based summoner they've been building. The closest thing the frachise has had to that would be Terra becomming an Esper herself. A complete rework where the SMN itself becomes the primal in part would go over well i think. The current Pheonix (I really do enjoy this bird, it works pretty well) has shown that replacing skills as a trance works fine, using that as a concept for the rest of the summoner would work fine as well.
To fix the egis or make that part something else. Sure i totally agree with you on that . There is no need to ask for more trance based play since that's where the job is heading anyways and i agree it is fun and great gameplay.

This is why when other people say that we should remove everything because it doesn't fit their aesthetics its making me angry. Were obviously going to get more demis with time if we rehaul we would have to rehaul the demis as well i just want to see the job through to the end.