Summoner Early Post-Launch Feedback at level 80

[Shougun]

Well I'm going on record now in saying that it's time for Demi's to end. Two is enough and it's clear adding more is just going to complicate the job even more. From 81-90 it's time to add another layer to SMN that would be one and done summon spells, Tempus. Tempus Odin would appear, do a straight line attack then disappear. Tempus Alexander would do an AoE attack. In this way we would have permanent pets; Egi. Our rotational pets; Demi. Then burst damage pets: Tempus.

But before that, SE needs to lock down our Demi/Trance rotation and make Egi damage worth the effort of having the commands on the hotbar.

I could see some more summons added in this spirit, big ol one time casts in the classic pre-pet spirit of primal summons (so like most of the FFs lol). Would add an excuse for some epic visuals like those classic summons (well to be fair full size bahamut and his special is pretty epic too, but you know what I mean). Far less often than Black Mage's big spells but makes black mage's big spells look like little spells lol.

An aside on scale and all that but in Diablo 3 they had it so other people's pets and such were optionally transparent so it didn't fill your screen, that might be helpful for other players (like how summoner can scale bahamut down).

Could be a fun idea! Plus Tempus sounds kind of neat . Would each Tempus be a separate skill or a rotation? Maybe to save hotbar space there are three tempus that replace your egi summon buttons (if Tempus is ready to fire I mean, I don't mean remove Egi altogether lol), that way the bloat doesn't go wild but we can get a bunch of options. Might make changing to another egi you need a bit of a pain without forcing a player to throw out their tempus though ;/ . . Still I think we're approaching critical buttons so we should be careful lol.

So far we have seen delete DoTs, delete pets, delete cast times, delete ruin..... Is it any wonder SE can't figure out what the community wants? It's basically delete SMN right now.

I lol'd

I didn't hate Summoner's mechanics but I've long rallied for primal themes, and each expansion SE has added and shifted summoner more towards that so I'm happy. If they need to smooth/adjust mechanics out that doesn't really bother me, the key to me was just how un-summoner it used to look and feel (subjective feeling/imo of course) and I feel they're making that better each expansion.

I've been content watching them for a while now. I still would like to see them add more primal things, very interested in this glamour system that's been in the works for a while, but if they keep doing what they're doing I think all is well (each expansion adding more dollops of primal then I have no worries at all).