Quote Originally Posted by HeulGDarian View Post
Thats the problem. The fact that People still think that he is a warlock cause he has 2 dots called bio and miasma. i researched warlock and his skills i compared every single tree and the only comparison between them is they both have dots and warlock has a rouse at some point. they are completely different. they compare this iteration of summoner to their favourite like yuna saying Thats a True summoner look no dots without realising that not every summoner is the same and that no summoner is only summoning like yuna Who has white magic as well. Lots of Jobs have dots but since ours are called bio and miasma along with how arr did things even though they didnt expand to make dots do More stuff People Will still say he is a warlock. Youre Just using them to do More dmg with tridi being your sharpcast. this isnt a warlock system where your dots shred resistances heal you makes you infest enemies for More summons which you can then kill to heal or power up.

Wtf is even a spiritualist we dont even use ghosts to fight. Not until we summon shiva or knights of the round at least. That Just sounds made up.
It obviously didnt Hit the spot for every single man woman and Child of the planet. But for those Who arent blind to their own nostalgia and stuck to It watching It finally reach the next stage It did if you still thought in stormblood that smn wasnt a smn then you wont change your opinion now like you didnt back then. And the arguement is as invalid and hurtfull to the job as It was then. Thankfully the devs already did It once in shadowbringer and picked 1 way rather than both with monk in 5. 05 where there the community was split between going slow and fast and they picked the sensible option
The problem isn't that SMN has dots, the problem is that the dots don't have anything to do with the job. In fact, Poison/Bio are BLM that were assigned to SMN because they wanted a dot class, that's it. If it was maybe a fire dot coming from Ifrit or from trancing to Ifrit, that would be okay, although I still think making the job identity tied to summoning dots would still be lame, they're basically forcing the class to be what it was never meant to be. And yeah, they shamelessly copied wow warlock from the beginning, having no idea what to do with this class, then in every expansion they were distancing from it, most of the new spells are summon related and burst related too. Then in this expansion I don't know why they go around and make ruinfesters and now again SMN's core identity continues being more tied to dots than to summons.

In fact, if you look at this breakdown, the damage coming from dots and nukes related to dots is more than 1.5x the damage coming from Summon related abilities, at which point I ask: Is it really a Summoner?

https://www.fflogs.com/reports/RFmv7...-done&source=6

Also worthy of mention: Ifrit does less damage than a dot (lol).