Summoner Early Post-Launch Feedback at level 80

[Rakith]

I've never lagged behind any other DPS as much as i do now. MCH and RDM do as much or even better than i do dps wise...
I'm so disappointed. SMN feels messy. I cant see why a PF or roster would recruit a SMN now. I feel so sad. Loved the idea of phoenix, love the pet management but i feel useless...
And i dont think practice will make things get better...
I couldnt even tell what would fix that, it just a subjective feeling. Aetherstacks used to be thefounding of our rotation and burst phase, now they re just here to trigger painflare and fester...
I really think they should revamp the job a bit.

[Incision93]

I've never lagged behind any other DPS as much as i do now

I did a run with my static on innocence yesterday. I managed a 99 (with ninja killing me with an aoe on purpose at 2%), with dancer, 9 akhmorns in 8 tricks (thanks laggy bahamut), 8 revealations and 50% phoenix in tricks, and the drg tethering me 24/7, and rushing dwt+bahamut+using all ruin4 at the end. I did 10 dps less than unbuffed drg.

The problem is that, compared to sb, loosing so much utility and rdps on most jobs (smn lost basically everything), the gap now between jobs definitely made them a full "comp to buff blm". I don't see any reason to consider viable some classes.

Many say that they have positionals, many say mch is selfish and need to be so high while beeing free to move. The payoff for standing still for ruin3, longest rotation, high adaptation requirements, now selfish af, still fcked on deaths if you just pressed your trance is not there at all. From third to bottom with nothing to compensate. Imho, aside from ffxiv context and my loved smn, in every game an harder class should do more than the easier one, obviously role dependant

The problem now is that if BLM does 100, we do 75/80 at best. There is nothing that SMN gets to fill that gap. I used to say "if you are not godlike, using blm in ultimate/savage is just cause you want challenge" but you COULD still do godlike and get rewarded for it.
Now is "if you are godlike, using smn is just cause you want challenge in every content, and still you will suck. Enjoy deaths too".

[Rakith]

Now is "if you are godlike, using smn is just cause you want challenge in every content, and still you will suck. Enjoy deaths too".

You're so right. I hope SE will see our despair and will MAKE OUR JOB GREAT AGAIN.