Summoner Early Post-Launch Feedback at level 80

[Zyneste]

Also, hoping that ACT is broken more than i see, SMN got the short stick on the dps side. Is clunkier, i can deal with it. Still unforgiving on death, a bit less. We were at the 3rd spot before when played proberly, also conserving A LOT of utility. Now we have res and devotion, a BAD devotion. If you want to go asap for trances, you will Ruin3/ruin2 tridisaster DWT and ED devotion at best. Which means what? Devotion is up again in phoenix and it won't align ever again with other buffs. Also 5%, not counting burst phases or buffs, on a 180s windows with 15s duration means that you will bring:

- 0,416666666 % RaidDps contribution

Just leaving contagion was better than this. We lost utility and dps, buff won't align or you will lose even more dps. You hardly can align dots in buff windows, Bahamut rotation is turret mode to get 8WW and:

- Sb combined damage from garuda + bahamut was like 27%. Now, with phoenix, sicfrit+bahamut+phoenix is just 28%

Pet damage is ridiculously low, like you crit 25k and ifrit crits 3k at best. Inferno is horrible, if the initial it does 50 your total dot does 25. There is no autoattack, just a spammed low damage ability that "seems" an autoattack.

i will still play it, BUT i am pretty pissed that with perfect rotation and food and dancer i can hardly mantain a mch or drg dps. I would be MUCH MORE pissed in reaching an enrage just cause i could do 3k more with blm.
NO, THE RES IS NOT WORTH 3K DPS AS THE ACTUAL ONLY UTILITY WE HAVE NOW!
Smn is the new selfish dps job, that doesn't do selfish dps standards

As a RDM player, with the severe limitations from placed on MP for both SMN/RDM, they should both have similar DPS. We both have similar raise sustain. Embolden vs Devotion have the same cool down 2 mins vs 3, but are near equal in dps utility as is. Embolden averaging a 6% physical dps only gain, while only affecting 80% of RDMS damage for 20 seconds, vs 15 seconds of affecting everyone. SMN has no party lockout with BLM, but RDM does [with smn too for that matter. ] SMN should be on top, but not by much. They should be right next to each other.

Rezzers are just on the mid bottom of the totem pole. We wont be near the low utility classes or even most melee.

Edit: imma actually math it out, but you're right its 3 mins vs 2.

[Taranok]

Embolden is a 2m Cooldown, Devotion 3m. Devotion is 5% flat, Embolden 6% average over 20 seconds (but obviously it's more complicated). Embolden only does physical damage and personal, devotion is all damage. And obviously Embolden is 20 seconds, Devotion 15.

Embolden is flat out the better buff unless you're running more than 1 caster DPS right now, and the fact that embolden is still physical only for support is kind of a problem due to how it enforces group composition.

So no, Summoner should not be equivalent to rdm on damage, because smn has vastly lower group utility.