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    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post

    Bladed Lantern Shield LV50 Drubber


    Vintage Kite Shield LV50 Drubber

    No outmanuever or aegis boon, both tests I just stood there and got beat on for an hour straight. BLS has almost half the stats of VKS and yet suffers so little, practically saying shield stats do not matter against level 50 mobs, even more proving as dLV goes up stats need HUGE boosts to catch up just like defense, mEVA, magic crit and physical crit potency.

    Going to assume block rate from dex ratio is either:
    For every 3 dex you get 2 block rate (like atk:str and def:vit theories)
    For every 5 dex you get 1 block rate (like healing magic from mnd and etc)

    You see how much those shields matter right? Why would you assume stacking dex and the minor block rate we can get will have any real effect?

    Also for fun, this is some the last ifrits I've done (1.20)

    No aegis boon, BUT I used outmanuever ON CD and had 21 dex from rings and 16+ dex from whatever archer hands I had, can' remember which item but it doesn't matter. EDIT was wearing Vintage Kite Shield also.

    Forgot to see how many of the actual attacks he made that you can block, which is ONLY the melee swings, but it's roughly 2 auto attacks for 1 TP attack (but tank doesn't get hit by cracks/jump), so lets assume 320ish auto attacks and 100ish TP attacks for roughly a 1% block rate this is probably close to the floor value which is probably 0% just like mEVA.

    The entire formula behind block rate is broken to the point it is extremely ineffective against bosses, even if what I explained is not 100% correct it should be close or similar to other formulas people way smarter then me have discovered.

    Nice data - I was actually going to start collecting some myself but I'm glad someone else has already.

    On a side-note, I've kind of abandoned this thread as it's devolved. The last few pages (Kiara's post was probably the last truly on-topic post that sparked some nice discussion aside from yours) have been mostly repeats of previous pages (things like just use a BRD, ignoring the concept that GLA can also use a BRD, etc) and now this latest; people actually trying to claim block rate is acceptable here.

    Not to mention, the assertion that smaller "high block rate lower damage reduction" shields are what people should be using - this was not the case in FFXI, and I would find it hard to beleive any other game wants people using dinky shields that are at best a glorified arm-guard. The extra damage reduction on larger shields should outweigh the more consistant block-rate of smaller shields. Otherwise, people wouldn't use larger shields.

    I'd be curious to see some data of like, 10x Ifrit without Outmaneuver, and 10x Ifrit with using Outmaneuver every time it comes back up. My guess would be a 0.1~0.2% increase in block rate. I swear, I blocked more often on RDM in FFXI.
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    Last edited by Phobos; 03-16-2012 at 01:01 AM.

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