The Problem with Paladin

[AreeyaJaidee]

It's true there are a Myriad of different ways to tank in FFXIV.

Whether that is intentional or by accident on SE's part will always remain a debate only ended by SE itself.

Yes, PLD and GLA differ in situational utility. But honestly how much "hair splitting" are we doing here?

Jobs have been out for less than a week whilst Classes are veteran occupations. The only real difference is the majority of players who tank in ffxiv are more "comfortable" with the way they've played GLA. In other words PLD is the new kid on the block and no one likes him/her yet.

As far as WAR goes: this is no different than MRDs relation to GLA. There's always been a rival in terms of tanking prowess between GLA and MRD. Now that feud has transferred to the two respective inheritors.

PLD has always been about Heavy MP use. I really dont know why everyone's so shocked by this.

The moral here is that, so many Job bashing threads keep popping up because it's the "newest thing to gripe about". When in reality it's just a matter of a uneasy community receiving new elements which aren't fully understood yet.

For ppl that still wanna GLA: good for you. Good luck keeping a WAR from ganking your hate lock because in all honesty not even GLA is capable of man handling a skilled WAR
(kinda unbalanced in regards to PvP right?)

P.S. Use that Shield Bash!

[Phobos]

It's true there are a Myriad of different ways to tank in FFXIV.

Whether that is intentional or by accident on SE's part will always remain a debate only ended by SE itself.

Yes, PLD and GLA differ in situational utility. But honestly how much "hair splitting" are we doing here?

Jobs have been out for less than a week whilst Classes are veteran occupations. The only real difference is the majority of players who tank in ffxiv are more "comfortable" with the way they've played GLA. In other words PLD is the new kid on the block and no one likes him/her yet.

As far as WAR goes: this is no different than MRDs relation to GLA. There's always been a rival in terms of tanking prowess between GLA and MRD. Now that feud has transferred to the two respective inheritors.

PLD has always been about Heavy MP use. I really dont know why everyone's so shocked by this.

The moral here is that, so many Job bashing threads keep popping up because it's the "newest thing to gripe about". When in reality it's just a matter of a uneasy community receiving new elements which aren't fully understood yet.

For ppl that still wanna GLA: good for you. Good luck keeping a WAR from ganking your hate lock because in all honesty not even GLA is capable of man handling a skilled WAR
(kinda unbalanced in regards to PvP right?)

P.S. Use that Shield Bash!

Simply examining the abilities you get on PLD show that it doesn't gain anything in terms of enmity generation or survivability over GLA. The reliance on MP and lack of an ability to recover it is just one reason. Even using a BRD, you could have a different song on with GLA, or be recovering more MP to use it more. This isn't simply bashing the new system - PLD is supposed to be a GLA more specialized in tanking, yet it fails to be.

In terms of a keeping hate from a WAR, this is not doable on either PLD or GLA. PLD gets cover but that only lasts a short while, after which the WAR just gets hate back and keeps it. And yes, this is different from MRD vs GLA, as WAR has a far better AOE (also, they can still use the old one last I checked too). I like that MRD/WAR can tank, and think they should continue to be able to do so. It strikes me as odd, though, that GLA/PLD are not even close to as good, and PLD is even worse.