I tanked the buffalo about a week ago, on gladiator of course, and while it was wailing on my face sonorous never reset hate to the point where a single provoke didn't take it back. i had thms and arcs going and had no trouble keeping hate. having a party that can keep their own hate down is common sense on stuff like buffalo. don't let your DD's be 'gifted'. i was the only person he was hitting so holy succor, divine veil = useless save for the extra hp i could cure myself for with succor. I'm far from resistant to change, i really like paladin. the JSE is my gripe. Maybe i'll use pld as a jack-of-all-trades/master-of-none for awhile til i find a working gear combo.