Yep, poor pld, and while what you say is true i wasn't contradicting it. I take issue only with the retarded statement that stats are useless. As you pointed out they are not useless. Less effective, impractical in large situations, oknp. But they don't "do nothing". All the new players read these dumb statements and learn nothing about what stats actually do because the internet taught them that they only will ever need HP. a side note: isn't the 1900 def number for ifrit if you have zero vitality? i don't think you can hit 0 vitality. it still would be an unrealistic number when figuring in 320 vit or so, but it wouldn't be 1900.