The Problem with Paladin

[Phobos]

Great post. The idea with the shield on overheals is a great idea especially since paladins get an HP nerf. It would nicely cover this weakness.

I do agree that paladin AoE hate is weak. I think they should lower the cooldown and effectiveness of wardrum. Something like a ten second cooldown and half the hate it builds now would make it really nice.

This would be nice if GLA/PLD blocked outside of Aegis Boon. Unfortunately, this would be a nerf and result in less overall enmity as things stand right now.

[Shiggysonson]

This would be nice if GLA/PLD blocked outside of Aegis Boon. Unfortunately, this would be a nerf and result in less overall enmity as things stand right now.

Actually, paladins block quite a bit on AoE pulls in stronghold. I was able to spam phalanx on each mob to try to hold hate on each, but yea the block rate on bosses is pretty low.

[Signy]

Actually, paladins block quite a bit on AoE pulls in stronghold. I was able to spam phalanx on each mob to try to hold hate on each, but yea the block rate on bosses is pretty low.

Also with Gridanian Blucker on stronghold pulls you will be blocking like once per second or more. Each block it reduce around 40% of the dmg so its great to have it. Also on THM or BLM you can use it while spaming Fire to survive a little more.

[Signy]

Good timed Aegis Blooms can mitigate a lot of damage. Like i was tanking the monk AF fight on paladin and i never go under 50% of my hp because i was focusing on time my Aegis with the MNK WS. PLD have better survivability overall than warrior. The problem i see is that PLD on long fight (like ifrit) is not really better that GLA since you could burst out almost all your mp in a few heals and had no way to recover it...

Ah also, yesterday i was tanking Ifrit on GLA and i notice that my Rage of Halone was missing a lot, before patch i usually hit all 5 attacks (and sometimes miss one) and now I'm hitting 2 of 5 (someones 1 or 3 if i get lucky) unless i use it with the combo. I really don't know if they raised ifrit's evade or just nerfed Rage accuracy...

[Treach]

Accuracy is down a lot in general, what weapon were you using? Not sure if mog blade alone is enough to get back to ~99% accuracy.

[Signy]

Accuracy is down a lot in general, what weapon were you using? Not sure if mog blade alone is enough to get back to ~99% accuracy.

I was using a Cobalt Winglet with Enmity materia, so i have +5 acc. I don't think mog weap will do much difference. :/ Is really messed up, i use to build hate with Rage and now just don't work.

[Judge_Xero]

Very interesting topic to the OP BTW.

What I am curious about is that since the jobs were meant to define a certain role in a PARTY
if Paladin is not "Working as intended"

I would assume since Gladiator is designed around solo play, that it would work well at all the points you listed
(MP Recovery, Second Wind, Feather Foot etc)

Since Paladin is meant for Party play, it will only be optimal in a party setting. As well, I'm not sure that
Paladin was actually listed as an UBER TANK that some think it should be.

1. Cover (Protect Ally)
2. Skill where if the PLD is healed, others around it are healed (Protect Ally)
3. Healing an Ally heals the PLD

While it can't take a beating that the WAR can take, what it can do is protect other party members.
Even the Glad can't protect allies as well PLD, but it is a slightly better Tank.

MP issues - since it should be in a party with BRD anyways, "Working as intended?"

Let's hear some more posts on how you feel on this topic

Just for more clarification on how I view this:

Warrior ='s Uber Main Tank
Paladin ='s Secondary Support Tank, or Close quarters fighting where allies are taking a lot of Damage despite the main boss being tanked by Warrior

[Headseed]

As an Alchemist I would love to see people buying up Ethers for their MP Woes. I mean it's 20% mp regen Max 600. and the cool down is 4 min.

SE put these items into the game for a reason. ^^

[Andrien]

GLA/PLD should be first choice for tanking since they're not great at damage dealing.

On that note, what PLD and other jobs is missing is Job Specific Traits.

[Phobos]

GLA/PLD should be first choice for tanking since they're not great at damage dealing.

On that note, what PLD and other jobs is missing is Job Specific Traits.

This, I think, could be the key to "fixing" PLD. Better blocking, better enmity, better defense would all go a long way to helping it's case.