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    Player
    Turkeysammich's Avatar
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    Mighty Birdy
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    Malboro
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    Archer Lv 50

    Please bring back Diversion

    No matter what DPS I play am always taking enmity, specially now with dancer and no diversion to lower it. Ive resulting in using the tried and true FFXI way of disengaging and not attacking for a bit.
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    Irohma's Avatar
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    Lilith Veiga
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Is this serious? Aggro has never been a problem for years and this update made tanks instantly get mob aggro forever with their AoE combos. I think I am yet to get enmity in ShB playing as a DNC in a dungeon. o_o

    btw.: never used Diversion in the game while it existed too.
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    Balmung_Griffin's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Balmung Griffin
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    That happened to me in one of the Dungeons. Since all enmity reduction skills were removed from the DPS class, it's up to the tanks to maintain aggro.
    I'm not a tank, but I think these scenarios should not happen as tanks are now more than capable to increase their on enmity.
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    Player Doozer's Avatar
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    Gunnar Mel'nik
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    I've literally never even come close to losing aggro since early access started. Clearly y'all are getting some bad tanks that still think having their tank stance off will increase their DPS or something. I could sleep through it at this point and no one would be able to take the enemies off me.
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    WaterShield's Avatar
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    Lalah Elakta
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I've literally never even come close to losing aggro since early access started. Clearly y'all are getting some bad tanks that still think having their tank stance off will increase their DPS or something. I could sleep through it at this point and no one would be able to take the enemies off me.
    I've been getting aggro in packs as Dancer, from tanks that do have tank stance on ;-;

    Not sure what they were doing TBH.
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    Last edited by WaterShield; 07-02-2019 at 06:49 AM.

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    Shurrikhan's Avatar
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    Tani Shirai
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    I've been getting aggro in packs as Dancer, from tanks that do have tank stance on ;-;

    Not sure what they were doing TBH.
    Same during AoE on WHM. I've seen the tank lose enmity to RDMs, DNCs, SMNs, and BLMs, as well during large pack pulls. I suspect it's because the tanks aren't quite reaching the mobs on the far end of the crowd with their AoEs during wall-to-wall pulls.
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    Taikugemu's Avatar
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    I've been getting aggro in packs as Dancer, from tanks that do have tank stance on ;-;

    Not sure what they were doing TBH.
    Basically not AoEing. Even trust Tancred doesn't lose aggro to me in dungeons.
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    ValStormbreaker's Avatar
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    Character
    Valkyria Stormbreaker
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Taikugemu View Post
    Basically not AoEing. Even trust Tancred doesn't lose aggro to me in dungeons.
    Yes but trusts also perform mechanics properly. Or so I hear. I'll be sure to let you know if Urianger starts exclaiming "mechanics are for cars" and blaming the DPSes for taking too much damage in unavoidable mechanics when he fails a healer check next time I try out a trust dungeon. X'D
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    Elric Ashmore
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Yeah, I'm guessing they didn't have their tank stance on.
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    Liam Harper
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    I've taken emnity a few times, but this is usually because the MT tank dies, doesn't pick up an add or hasn't got tank stance on.

    As annoying as it is, Diversion in these cases would simply pass the boss to another dps or worse, the healer, killing them instead. Which doesn't really benefit the group more. It's up to the tanks to ensure they handle their role.
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