Summoner has some real problems

[Tommara]

I've been playing MMO's since Everquest was in beta (and MO's before EQ).

Hybrids used to fill a fun niche, before the days of Duty Finders, and the like. People who didn't want to min-max used to be able find a way to a way to level up in old school games, by being able to solo content that min-maxers could not. Min-max (in this context) = a toon that was dedicated solely to only one of dps, tanking, or healing. Hybrid = a toon that could do any combination of dps, tanking, or healing.

Whether right or wrong, the FF14 devs have decided to kill the hybrid choice. That fact is evidenced by their decision to make exp from killing mobs negligible in solo content, (which they did very long ago), since it forces any hybrid wannabe into playing the game their way, i.e., doing group dungeons. Which the FF14 devs have done a stellar job in making. But gives us no other alternative.

And so it leaves no job for hybrids, as the summoner used to be. No point in having a tank pet anymore. No point in being able to heal.

I mourn that loss, but as doing group dungeons is the only viable way to level (and I hope you understand the devs assigned exp to ensure that is so), there is no room for a hybrid in a 4-man group.

And so I think these changes are to make summoners/scholars/archivists, who were all hybrids fit the min-max profile.

Which is actually kind of them, compared to other games where I've been nerfed.

But I really miss games where being a hybrid was a viable choice, instead of being forced to min-max.

[Corosar]

I personally have been using Physick effectively all the way up to 5.0 Hell i even went out of the way to get Eureka gear so i could pentameld Mind Materia 6's and bring my physick up to a point where i could actually use it in situations. Throwing off 6k (9k on crit) physicks felt good as a summoner. There have been many of times where that has saved a raid due to the healer going down and not having a redmage, All the healers going down so while they are being ressed i am able to hold ground, or hell if we lose the healer outright due to a disconnect and have to hold for a short period of time. With the removal of Main stat materia (minus Piety) Physick is no longer able to be viable. I stand with the people that want physick to be at least somewhat useful here.

Also i noticed someone mentioning the removal of resurrection as well and topaz. I have to state that Topaz is my main carbuncle. If it was not for people flipping their shit every time online i would have used it more. I like the changes of Topaz. Means i can keep myself going and be available for back-up ressurections of healers. The shield is not strong sure but it does enough to keep me going till the healer is back on their feet.

Besides. If you really want to DPS with a summoner. You really would not be harmed by physick being actually useful now would you? it just be another ability you can freely ignore. But for those of us that actually want it to be useful. It gives us a bit more ability to customize ourselves a little bit more than the game currently allows. A bit of a freedom to enjoy doing something else. Besides. A summoner with a proper working physick. is still no where near as strong as a Red mage with their Vercure. no matter what anyone says. Dualcasting makes redmage the better Red healer right now.

TL: DR if we have the ability. why not make it viable. For those Summoners that don't want physick. There is a simple answer for you. Don't put it on your grid. Keep resurrection. Its always good to have contingencies like Verraise and Resurrection. Topaz indirectly tanks now and that is a major change that people are gonna have to figure out. Removing it just adds to the list of things that prevent summoner players from having choices.

Summoners in FF history has always been a very supportive or powerhouse like depending on what you summon. Why is that a bad thing? don't use physick if it ever does get fixed later if you really need to get DEM DEEPS