Summoner has some real problems

[Daethir]

To OP : Garuda is the only pet that deal AOE damage on its auto attack so if you don't want to pull multiple mob just use another pet, physick is weak I guess but I mean who care we're DPS. I wasn't using Titan at all so I don't miss him but I agree his current form is stupid, they should have reworked him differently or just remove him, what we have now make no sense.

As a level 48 Summoner I feel the backside has been ripped out of the class with how pathetically similar the pets are now. I want my Tank, Melee and Ranged pets back

Pet are more different than they were before the patch, Ifrit is melee single target, Garuda is distance AOE, they have two different Egi assault each + enkidle. Idk what you're smoking.

[Stormblessed9000]

(1) The physick is either broken or at least it's no help at all from level 50ish. At level 10-15 ACN it does about a 20% of HP recovery with the quest gear. Nothing special just leveling up. That's very cool. No argument with that.

Physic only exists as something to let scholars heal at low levels. It's a carry-over from the archanist base class and you should never use it as a summoner. You really do not need a propper heal as a DPS class. Almost all DPS classes can function just fine with just a few limited survival tools (yours is the titan shield). The only exception is RDM and they pay for it by having lower raid DPS.

(2) The pets [lets talk about Emerald Carby first] now....

You have other pets you can use. Otherwise just turn your pet on steady or pull mobs away before engaging like other classes do. Pre-50 solo content is not something that is hard enough to really be an issue anyway unless you are horribly under-geared.

(3) Not having a TANK PET is a big problem.
This was TLTP too long to post sigh

While this is somewhat disappointing, you don't actually need a tank pet for anything (unless they haven't fixed some job quests). No other class has access to a pocket tank in duties and they get by just fine.

[Taranok]

Physic only exists as something to let scholars heal at low levels. It's a carry-over from the archanist base class and you should never use it as a summoner. You really do not need a propper heal as a DPS class. Almost all DPS classes can function just fine with just a few limited survival tools (yours is the titan shield). The only exception is RDM and they pay for it by having lower raid DPS.

If physick is a carry over, legacy mechanic, then the devs could and should have deleted it as of ShB. The devs went so far as to split Ruin 1+2 into 2 separate instances of the same ability depending on whether you're SCH or SMN, and Physick is technically also split. The devs added ARC skills like Fester at a level range where SCH should also get it, but they do not. At this point, legacy mechanics are no longer an excuse, the classes have been cut in half in almost every possible way at this point, and they have next to no actual overlap anymore, especially at 80.

This doesn't mean physick should exist on SMN, but what it means is that if it exists, it should be reasonably usable.

[Saix027]

If physick is a carry over, legacy mechanic, then the devs could and should have deleted it as of ShB. The devs went so far as to split Ruin 1+2 into 2 separate instances of the same ability depending on whether you're SCH or SMN, and Physick is technically also split. The devs added ARC skills like Fester at a level range where SCH should also get it, but they do not. At this point, legacy mechanics are no longer an excuse, the classes have been cut in half in almost every possible way at this point, and they have next to no actual overlap anymore, especially at 80.

This doesn't mean physick should exist on SMN, but what it means is that if it exists, it should be reasonably usable.

They actually sort of did, i had to requip it for summoner i tihnk or scholar, unsure which, but basically each has there own Physick now but still the same ironicly. So they sort of changed those? But forgot to adjust it or what?

[TimeraiderGaranyi]

BLM had drain .. took them 2 expansions to realise that stuff was useless to.
Give them an expansion more and Summoner will lose the physick to :P

[Kaozurei]

I don't really understand how any of the things OP mentioned are actual problems for Summoner right now... Physick has always been useless, it may as well not exist and SMN never needed a tank pet to begin with. I mean, none of the other DPS jobs have a tank pet of their own and they do just fine, even BLM whose defenses are the same as SMN's (save for Manaward but it's not like that can be spammed).

As for pets pulling things, Emerald Carbuncle is the AoE pet so of course it'll do AoE damage, though I've never had an instance when one of my pets has pulled multiple things that I didn't intend on pulling in the first place. There's no need to level a tank just to do solo content, all it takes it knowing how to play Summoner and getting decent gear. I've yet to meet anyone who was unable to clear a solo duty or an MSQ field ambush (purple circles) as a SMN, not even people who started playing the game when Early Access began.

[Gallus]

SMN right now is very problematic to play but not for the reasons you listed.

[Misutoraru]

Red mage has a working heal SMN want there's fixed!

basically why

RDM and BLM don’t have a pet
BLM don’t have revive
RDM don’t have energy drain
BLM have infinite MP while SMN and RDM don’t
...etc
Just because other job have it doesn’t mean every job need the same kit

[Duskane]

RDM and BLM don’t have a pet
BLM don’t have revive
RDM don’t have energy drain
BLM have infinite MP while SMN and RDM don’t
...etc
Just because other job have it doesn’t mean every job need the same kit

yeah i understand its just the reasoning most use
"there heal works why cant ours"
i wish they would just remove physick maybe even resurection of SMN and let them be SCH only skills

[Seraphor]

Given how easy it was to rip aggro off of Titan before, this is a huge improvement. What use is a tank pet if it doesn't have aggro?
Weren't SMNs asking for a manaward anyway?