Loss of drain on Blm...really?!

[Darkshneider]

Half the replies here is like people didn't even read what I wrote.clutch situations..CLUTCH.This dosent remove all the times I got saved by that nifty spell many ignored.Its not like its used in a main rotation.But theres those times a well placed swiftest or triple cast was beyond lifesaving.

[Rongway]

clutch situations..CLUTCH.

In a party, your HP should never drop that low. If it does, it should be from a scripted move followed by scripted healing.

Solo, your HP should never drop that low. If it does, you're not killing the thing fast enough or you're doing something you're not meant to be soloing.

There are no such situations for BLM where Drain would be meaningful.

[YanderePrincess]

In a party, your HP should never drop that low. If it does, it should be from a scripted move followed by scripted healing.

Solo, your HP should never drop that low. If it does, you're not killing the thing fast enough or you're doing something you're not meant to be soloing.

There are no such situations for BLM where Drain would be meaningful.

Sorry, but this isn't really true. There are quite a few solo scenarios in the BLM job quest line where having Drain made things substantially more reasonable. They're do-able without it, but are noticeably more difficult.

[Darkshneider]

In a party, your HP should never drop that low. If it does, it should be from a scripted move followed by scripted healing.

Solo, your HP should never drop that low. If it does, you're not killing the thing fast enough or you're doing something you're not meant to be soloing.

There are no such situations for BLM where Drain would be meaningful.

Its like you don't know the meaning of clutch.
Its situations that RARELY happen
and you just saying that there is no situation that it was meaningful...your opinions cant erase the reality of the things that happened the small lil times a triple casted drain was useful to me.It was useful those little times and its annoying for skills to be removed without giving something back,like they removed the almost useless physic? they gave drain which scaled off damage which was a tad more useful so it was fine. 1 for 1. Its very bad game design to jurt remove things without giving other types of tolls that do a comparable role back of the skill that was removed.

[YanderePrincess]

Its like you don't know the meaning of clutch.
Its situations that RARELY happen
and you just saying that there is no situation that it was meaningful...your opinions cant erase the reality of the things that happened the small lil times a triple casted drain was useful to me.It was useful those little times and its annoying for skills to be removed without giving something back,like they removed the almost useless physic? they gave drain which scaled off damage which was a tad more useful so it was fine. 1 for 1. Its very bad game design to jurt remove things without giving other types of tolls that do a comparable role back of the skill that was removed.

In this case, I think the cases where it was extremely valuable are rare enough that it's not bad game design to remove it. We got by just fine without it before Stormblood. We'll get by without it now. For it to actually be worth leaving in the game, it would have to be made significantly better than it is. Also keep in mind that it wasn't BLM specific. It was magical DPS, and it was useless to RDM once they got Vercure, and useless to SMN (though maybe less useless now, thinking about it).

[Taikugemu]

Its like you don't know the meaning of clutch.
Its situations that RARELY happen
and you just saying that there is no situation that it was meaningful...your opinions cant erase the reality of the things that happened the small lil times a triple casted drain was useful to me.It was useful those little times and its annoying for skills to be removed without giving something back,like they removed the almost useless physic? they gave drain which scaled off damage which was a tad more useful so it was fine. 1 for 1. Its very bad game design to jurt remove things without giving other types of tolls that do a comparable role back of the skill that was removed.

In which case triple casting drain would be more useful than, y'know, pressing the manaward button?

[YanderePrincess]

In which case triple casting drain would be more useful than, y'know, pressing the manaward button?

Manaward is sometimes on thing thing called a cooldown.

@Zyneste It wasn't usually in dungeons. It was in 8-man raids. Mainly in the Omega fight. And to be fair, I wasn't always depending purely on the Drain for this. My Paladin friend would also Clemency, but it often took both to keep me alive when healers were being shitty, but there were numerous times I got myself up just enough to survive a raid wide aoe by spamming drain beforehand. With competent healers, of course, I never cast Drain. Like I said, I'm perfectly fine with it being removed, but it was fun to make use of in those rare occasions where it was actually useful.

[Cynfael]

Manaward is sometimes on thing thing called a cooldown.

@Zyneste It wasn't usually in dungeons. It was in 8-man raids. Mainly in the Omega fight. And to be fair, I wasn't always depending purely on the Drain for this. My Paladin friend would also Clemency, but it often took both to keep me alive when healers were being shitty, but there were numerous times I got myself up just enough to survive a raid wide aoe by spamming drain beforehand. With competent healers, of course, I never cast Drain. Like I said, I'm perfectly fine with it being removed, but it was fun to make use of in those rare occasions where it was actually useful.

As absurd as this sounds, I would rather die than depend on Drain. If I have to spam a low-potency unaspected nuke to heal myself by painfully small degrees, I would rather go down in a blaze of high-potency DPS and watch from the floor as the train wreck unfolds.

Then I would find decent healers and carry on.

[Zerathor]

As absurd as this sounds, I would rather die than depend on Drain. If I have to spam a low-potency unaspected nuke to heal myself by painfully small degrees, I would rather go down in a blaze of high-potency DPS and watch from the floor as the train wreck unfolds.

Then I would find decent healers and carry on.

This. In any content where you thought drain will be required to not die, odds are you'll still die because it's heal was so miniscule. May as well get off another dps gcd before dying.

[Taikugemu]

Manaward is sometimes on thing thing called a cooldown.

He said in *clutch* situations, if it's happening frequently than it stop being clutch no?