Loss of drain on Blm...really?!

[Waterdesk]

Yeah, I was pretty bummed out when I saw that drain was removed; it really saved me in certain situations. What comes to mind is the level 60 BLM quest. I think I went through that quest with full augmented shire gear, but it was still extremely difficult. I wonder how new black mages will handle that quest, unless the difficulty was toned down or I'm just a bad solo BLM. I guess potions can always be used.

[Kaizencorr]

Drain was not mandatory. It was not beneficial. It was not useful. It was barely situational. And any engagement where Drain was situational could have been averted by either being a better player or surrounding yourself with better players.

Let's stop romanticizing the niche moments. Sure, if you managed to save a run with Drain in some .01% go/no go scenario, it may(gross exaggeration) have been highlight worthy, but to suggest it should remain in the game off that minute merit alone is silly.

[Selova]

People seriously used drain? In what scenario? I dont think I've ever even had it in my bars.

[Tint]

People seriously used drain? In what scenario? I dont think I've ever even had it in my bars.

I used it once in the robot / math fight in Ridorana. Both healers died at the lasershow and I used Drain to heal myself up before the next raidbuster.

I remember this well, because the other BLM in the party shoutet that it's Drain time. And I thought good idea! But apparently I was the only one who used Drain, because everyone except me died at the raidbuster ^^


Drain was way to weak to justify the GCD. BLM has a strong shield, it should be enough self sustain.

[Dyvid]

I would be okay with BLM have a decent Potency drain spell.

[Hasrat]

What if they're setting us up for getting a proper Drain (and Osmose!) in 6.0?

Mmm, Osmose as an oGCD, maybe some damage, more importantly regaining some MP. Let's say, idk, 800ish. That's some tasty quint-Flare.

[RopeDrink]

Using an awful button that did barely any damage and barely any healing (in place of anything actually usable within your standard rotation to kill the target faster) will not be justified by "I had some clutch moments with it!"

It was rubbish, hands down. Use a potion and cast something useful rather than bewail the loss of one of the least used/pressed buttons the class ever had. Side-note, still enjoying BLM - one of the few that most people seem (mostly) happy with after all the fancy class/stat changes. I don't recall bothering with Drain outside of pre-level 30 and I will never miss it.

[TimeraiderGaranyi]

Wait.. BLM had drain?


The fact that i had to ask this question should tell you enough.

[YanderePrincess]

Wait.. BLM had drain?


The fact that i had to ask this question should tell you enough.

I mean, the number of times I've heard someone ask a question like that about something super important to a job kinda negates your reasoning there. Just because you weren't aware of it doesn't inherently mean it was useless. :P

[Acidblood]

Just because you weren't aware of it doesn't inherently mean it was useless. :P

True, but Drain was useless; it didn't even heal an equal level mobs auto attack. Though I suspect that was by design...

The issue with any sort of decent healing skill on BLM is of course that BLM essentially has infinite MP. This makes them unique from RDM and the Healers, all of whom will eventually run dry and be unable to keep up with neither healing nor damage vs. a serious threat (and if not; i.e. they are ‘overpowered’ and able to solo things they shouldn't; it is a simple matter of adjusting costs). PLD can also heal themselves, but only in bursts, and with a long MP regen time in between; BLM MP regen in UI is, by comparison, incredibly fast.

So make the heal weak? Firstly, weak by what context (remembering that weak is relative and changes with gear as the game progresses). Secondly, if it is ‘weak’ it is likely to be useless, as Drain was, and little more than button bloat (and I for one would rather have a useful ability... like Mana Shift).

So what about a cooldown? BLM already has Manaward, the cooldown of which could simply be lowered, or a charge added, if extra survivability was warranted (which IMO it isn't).

Oh, and BLM also has AoE Sleep, which can be far more powerful than any healing skill if the issue is open world survivability.