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    Darkshneider's Avatar
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    Darkshneider Arcannus
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 70

    Loss of drain on Blm...really?!

    Im really upset the loss of this skill.Drain has been a spell in the blackmages repertoire since final fantasy one.I cant count the time this skill saved me in a clutch in a party situations when the healer is busy to heal myself really quick some to keep dpsing and in solo situations.If your damage was really high you could triple cast and top off to almost full hp.I remember the fight with the Blackmage chick in the steepe in stormblood,the one that has many phases,that was only possible with blackmage because of drain.So how will blm sustain his hp in clutch emergencies from now on? this is a big nerf that no one has mentioned but when you start doing stuff with blm youll feel it.Just because some people didn't use it at all dosent take away its value.
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Drain was garbage.
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    Orbus's Avatar
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    Solala Sola
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    Leviathan
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    I enjoyed drain as a gimmick spell, but in all seriousness it was garbo.
    It has less potency than scathe - and has cast time.

    And I know damage isn't the point of drain, but if you're honestly hanging on only because of drain recovery then the real issue is that either the healer isn't doing their job or you're eating avoidable attacks.
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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    BLM. The answer is "kill it faster". The duel on the steppe is doable without a single heal. Just dodge the things and kill the things.
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 80
    As others have said, it had basically no value. The heal was so feeble as to be nearly worthless, and it was unnecessary for the content you might use it in. Using Drain instead of a real spell would just make things take longer and probably increase the likelihood of the player dying to some mechanic they could have avoided by ending the encounter more quickly.
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    Zyneste Azurox
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Sleep and Manaward is all you really have on BLM. You're still in a better place in some ways compared to SMN, that is until Phoenix ;D.

    Drain in itself was a terrible skill.

    As casters, I feel we have "2 open role skill slots" unfilled.

    I could see something like a "new" Drain skill as a GCD bloodbath for the caster, placing a debuff on a single target for a short time, with a % of the damage dealt returned to you. Something like 40% over the course of 15 seconds. [Numbers can be adjusted, but something similar to the amount healed from a VerCure cast, once ever 15 seconds. The DPS loss of casting it, being the main factor that limits its use in high end content.]

    Really though all they need to do is make sure that mobs in BLM quest line and MSQ can in some part be slept to recup (ignoring certain bosses where you have the super echo healing you.)
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    Last edited by Zyneste; 07-02-2019 at 12:14 PM.

  7. #7
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    Darkshneider Arcannus
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Half the replies here is like people didn't even read what I wrote.clutch situations..CLUTCH.This dosent remove all the times I got saved by that nifty spell many ignored.Its not like its used in a main rotation.But theres those times a well placed swiftest or triple cast was beyond lifesaving.
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    YanderePrincess's Avatar
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    Svana Fyth
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Drain was garbage.
    It was useful for some solo situations, and it literally kept me alive when I had shit healers sometimes. That said, I honestly don't especially miss it.
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    "Women are meant to be loved, not to be understood." ~Oscar Wilde

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    Cyrillo Rongway
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshneider View Post
    clutch situations..CLUTCH.
    In a party, your HP should never drop that low. If it does, it should be from a scripted move followed by scripted healing.

    Solo, your HP should never drop that low. If it does, you're not killing the thing fast enough or you're doing something you're not meant to be soloing.

    There are no such situations for BLM where Drain would be meaningful.
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    Svana Fyth
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshneider View Post
    Im really upset the loss of this skill.Drain has been a spell in the blackmages repertoire since final fantasy one.I cant count the time this skill saved me in a clutch in a party situations when the healer is busy to heal myself really quick some to keep dpsing and in solo situations.If your damage was really high you could triple cast and top off to almost full hp.I remember the fight with the Blackmage chick in the steepe in stormblood,the one that has many phases,that was only possible with blackmage because of drain.So how will blm sustain his hp in clutch emergencies from now on? this is a big nerf that no one has mentioned but when you start doing stuff with blm youll feel it.Just because some people didn't use it at all dosent take away its value.
    To be fair, Drain didn't exist in this game until Stormblood. Granted, it was nicer than having a cross-class Physick based off mnd stat.
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    "Women are meant to be loved, not to be understood." ~Oscar Wilde

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