More viera hair (And the ability to use modern Aesthetics hair)

[Boa-Noah]

I think part of the issue is Miqo'te ears are all the same while Viera ears are different shapes so hats and hairstyles need to account for that.

To compound the issue, I get the feeling the dev team paired the hair and the ears for Viera which isn't the case for Miqo'te, much like how the Hrothgar have their face tied to their hair, now I know that sounds strange but hear me out here, I get the feeling they did this and I feel like the lack of hairs make it obvious they did it this way. If the ears were just part of the model then basically every and any hair would work by just simply clipping through the ears and there'd be no issue, but there clearly is one since it's been a year from launch without ANY of them, also the head items Viera can use? No hats, nothing that changes or alters/swaps the hairstyle.

This means those base hairs you can choose as Viera are all built-in with the ears present, if they were going to add a hairstyle for the Viera with the current aesthetician system it would have to unlock both versions of the hair, ears and without, which they can't do because then Lalas would be running around with Viera ears jutting out. This is also likely why the dev team said previously they were considering options and that they might just release new hairs as race specific things for Viera and Hrothgar, aka let's use Braids, if they released a new Braids hairstyle there'd be 2 versions, one that's for every other race and one specifically for Viera (to add the ears), if Hrothgar got lucky they'd also get one unique to them with a new face (they tied hair and face for Hrothgar).

Further I get the feeling the ears are a base structure and the different choices for lop or fur or whatever is just different details that overlap/overwrite the base ear (much like how wearing high heels doesn't change your height, it just removes a portion of your shin/ankle/leg length).

Could be 100% wrong but that's the vibe I get from this, maybe we'll find out when the race specific hairs manifest from the void.

[Amnmaat]

That's not how Viera's hair is modeled, there's a "bald" Viera model that's gone around reddit before where they're bald with ears attached to the head. That's the base model they use, then the hair attaches to it as you choose them in the character creator.
Hrothgar is the one whose hair was modeled into the face, instead of having a bald model to which hair is applied to as you select it.

[Boa-Noah]

That's not how Viera's hair is modeled, there's a "bald" Viera model that's gone around reddit before where they're bald with ears attached to the head. That's the base model they use, then the hair attaches to it as you choose them in the character creator.

So then... why can't Viera just use the other hair?

If the ears are legitimately attached to the head of the model then there's basically no reason hair can't just be stretch-fit to their skulls like it is in some other races, looking at bald pictures for both Miqo'te and Viera the only difference I can see is that maybe the bunny ears are attached too high off the scalp so maybe some shorter hairs would expose the base of the ears? But that doesn't make any sense either as they can legitimately just stretch the hair up a little bit to cover the base or maybe even sink the ears down (a relatively simple model update) so what the heck gives?

If it was tied to the hair like in my theory it'd make sense they can't just release Viera hairs, but now I have 0 clue beyond some freak spaghetti code issue...

[Amnmaat]

So then... why can't Viera just use the other hair?

If the ears are legitimately attached to the head of the model then there's basically no reason hair can't just be stretch-fit to their skulls like it is in some other races, looking at bald pictures for both Miqo'te and Viera the only difference I can see is that maybe the bunny ears are attached too high off the scalp so maybe some shorter hairs would expose the base of the ears? But that doesn't make any sense either as they can legitimately just stretch the hair up a little bit to cover the base or maybe even sink the ears down (a relatively simple model update) so what the heck gives?

If it was tied to the hair like in my theory it'd make sense they can't just release Viera hairs, but now I have 0 clue beyond some freak spaghetti code issue...

In my opinion it has to do with male hrothgar and how people would treat any extra additions to female Viera as a slight to them. "Why did Viera get all these old hair styles and hrothgar didn't?"

Even though they made it clear to the fanbase in a past interview that beast races bring inherent limitations. Viera not only has to pay the gender penalty where they can't choose male Viera, but they also have to hair/customization penalty because again; hrothgar. It's one of the worst decision making situations I've seen in the mmorpg world that I've ever seen. As bad as some of the 1.0 decisions.

[Yencat]

In my opinion it has to do with male hrothgar and how people would treat any extra additions to female Viera as a slight to them. "Why did Viera get all these old hair styles and hrothgar didn't?"

It's possible, unless they say something we obviously won't know for sure but I have doubts about this being the only reason. Sure, it might look bad to release something for just Viera, but it's not like they released in a perfectly fair state to start with.
Viera can freely change their hair but Hrothgar can't, there's helmets in the game Hrothgar can wear but Viera can't (and vice versa probably as well), they've even shown they're not above releasing Mogstation content where the hat works for one but not the other.
So why would they pretend to be fair about it now?

Personally I think it's just not a high priority for them. They don't gain much by doing it other than a bit of consumer goodwill, and if people are upset enough to be fed up with it they actually earn money from more Fantasia's.
Now I'm not suggesting they're being nefarious by not releasing anything to cash in on Fantasia, I just really don't think they're in any sort of hurry to get to it.

[Ayuhra]

So then... why can't Viera just use the other hair?

If the ears are legitimately attached to the head of the model then there's basically no reason hair can't just be stretch-fit to their skulls like it is in some other races, looking at bald pictures for both Miqo'te and Viera the only difference I can see is that maybe the bunny ears are attached too high off the scalp so maybe some shorter hairs would expose the base of the ears? But that doesn't make any sense either as they can legitimately just stretch the hair up a little bit to cover the base or maybe even sink the ears down (a relatively simple model update) so what the heck gives?

If it was tied to the hair like in my theory it'd make sense they can't just release Viera hairs, but now I have 0 clue beyond some freak spaghetti code issue...

They're not attached. Here's the image in question...one of a few.



I think Viera ear shapes clipping things is the major roadblock.

That and what Amnaat said about Hrothgar although Hrothgar limitations should not excuse Viera limitations. I think Hrothgar players are all pretty much aware that the beef cats have a unique situation (that said, yes, hair and face should be unlinked. Needing fantasia to change hair is ridiculous)

[SturmChurro]

They're not attached. Here's the image in question...one of a few.



I think Viera ear shapes clipping things is the major roadblock.

That and what Amnaat said about Hrothgar although Hrothgar limitations should not excuse Viera limitations. I think Hrothgar players are all pretty much aware that the beef cats have a unique situation (that said, yes, hair and face should be unlinked. Needing fantasia to change hair is ridiculous)

I think it's a design decision to restrict viera hair to being race specific. Probably due to being coupled with hrothgar, sharing a limited status. Not ideal, but it is what it is. When it comes to hats they seem to want to have some quality control (Ear clipping), so most are restricted. Some hairstyles would have to be slightly redesigned for viera ears, but you'd think it would be less work to do that, than create a racial specific style from scratch, hence design decision.

[Amnmaat]

Design philosophy based on the fact that they know the reaction to female Viera getting new hair styles while hrothgar are stuck with their beastly faces and no new hair. Has nothing to do with giving Viera unique hair styles. Further proof of this is how they started out by saying Viera would get some of the shared hair styles, but not all; this only seems to have changed later.

[Druysera]

Yoshi P already answered back on this. He stated that viera will get some of the other hairstyles, but not all and Hrothgar will get new Hrothgar specific hairstyles and possibly more faces.

2 years later, still nothing so... The troll is real ^^

[Ysera_Brynat]

Hair please