Is it just me, or is ShB quest exp really under-tuned?

[Kaedan]

I've never NOT had to do some extra dungeons or roulettes. In every expansion, I remember having to run at least and extra dungeon or two per level.

[HakaseNyan]

I was 80 by the time I was doing Lv76 MSQ. I did 6 FATEs in each zone, every sidequest as they came up, and some roulettes. If you're starved for EXP, then you're the one starving yourself.

[TalithaSolarien]

I only did the MSQ so far, doing a few FATEs while exploring the map and ran the first 2 dungeons 2 time and I'm at MSQ level 75 and now one level ahead. So I don't think it's undertuned if you do more regular activities.

[Reap00]

So, as the title states, it seems to be really under-tuned compared to previous expansions. Where in, you could complete all the side quests + main quests and still level properly to continue main story line without having to do a roulette. I don't even remember having to do a roulette in SB or HW to continue the main story upon each of their initial releases.

This does not appear to be the case in some areas in ShB. As an example I just finished completing the quests in the left half of Rak'tika + 12 fates and it still isn't enough to finish the level to continue main story. I am at 17,835,584 of 19,750,000 exp.

Thoughts or similar experiences?

I guess you are unaware of how much XP you get from leveling, alliance and msq roulette. I hit an msq wall a single time in the run to 80. It only happened because I ran the story dungeon 1x during that stretch. If you don't want to run the roulettes grab your trusts and run the latest dungeon a couple times. Done.

[Averax]

In my experience the side quests never really gave all that much experience. The main quests don't seem to be giving much, proportionally to other expansions, though. However, simply doing your roulettes every day will reward a significant chunk of experience.

[MOZZYSTAR]

I was thinking the same thing, OP. Even without sidequests, I thought the exp from MSQ quests were more substantial in previous expansions.

[Barraind]

I was thinking the same thing, OP. Even without sidequests, I thought the exp from MSQ quests were more substantial in previous expansions.

Leveling an alt through the story a few months ago, I had to do exactly 14 side quests in stormblood (that weren't part of flying unlocks) and ran each dungeon once, with 3 total roulettes (I did it in just under 2 days, and only did a roulette when I was stuck at level to not have to do sidequests).

For shadowbringers, I had to do 3 runs of every dungeon, 12-15 fates per zone (was kind of useless in 2 of them as I had flying before mount speed bonuses) and sidequests in all but 2 hubs to keep on pace with the msq.

That's with full rested xp (lasted me through 80 and 78 of a gatherer), 100% food uptime and 15% xp buffs.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Leveling an alt through the story a few months ago, I had to do exactly 14 side quests in stormblood (that weren't part of flying unlocks) and ran each dungeon once, with 3 total roulettes (I did it in just under 2 days, and only did a roulette when I was stuck at level to not have to do sidequests).

For shadowbringers, I had to do 3 runs of every dungeon, 12-15 fates per zone (was kind of useless in 2 of them as I had flying before mount speed bonuses) and sidequests in all but 2 hubs to keep on pace with the msq.

That's with full rested xp (lasted me through 80 and 78 of a gatherer), 100% food uptime and 15% xp buffs.

That's bizarre. I did all the side quests, really only 6 fates per zone, 11 in 1 just for fun, not exp. Only ran the dungeons once. Did a trial and normal raid roulette with friends once, and only hit a lvl block 4 and a half mil from 80.

[DynnDiablos]

I mean I am currently 77 and in the 72 MSQ right now. I honestly feel with all the XP opportunities available, it's easier than ever before to gain experience.

[Crystal_Raven]

Experience is certainly significantly less than it was in the previous patches.

I'm lvl 78 and once again I am locked out of MSQ, 17m exp out of 32m.

I was locked out at level 73, 77, and now 79. I've been donig my roulettes on a daily basis and yet, I don't have the exp necessary to continue the story. Not to mention that once I get level 79, I will be yet again locked out of MSQ when the quest becomes level 80 and I have to wait for the daily reset in order to be able to get level 80 and finish the story.