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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griss View Post
    A object of that size slamming into a planet would not be the catalyst for the changes were going to see in 2.0 it would be the trigger for a mass extinction.
    Not too sure about that.
    Dalamud originally was just a tiny dot right next to the moon, so actually it's not that big.
    Considering Hydaelyn has an atmosphere pretty similar to the one our RL earth has, that thing would probably get reduced to way less mass on it's way through the outer layers of the atmosphere and also would probably split up, leading to many meteors of different sizes raining down on Eorzea.
    Looking at all the holes and stuff seen in some 2.0 pictures, I don't think the moon raining down on us would have to lead to mass extinction

    Oh, and just because it was build by people does not make it less of a mini moon.
    My house is not a machine either just because it was built by man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Not too sure about that.
    Dalamud originally was just a tiny dot right next to the moon, so actually it's not that big.
    Considering Hydaelyn has an atmosphere pretty similar to the one our RL earth has, that thing would probably get reduced to way less mass on it's way through the outer layers of the atmosphere and also would probably split up, leading to many meteors of different sizes raining down on Eorzea.
    Looking at all the holes and stuff seen in some 2.0 pictures, I don't think the moon raining down on us would have to lead to mass extinction

    Oh, and just because it was build by people does not make it less of a mini moon.
    My house is not a machine either just because it was built by man.
    Size in the sky means nothing, stars are just dots in the sky and they can be over 500x bigger than our sun, perhaps Dalamud was just really far away (and moving really fast)

    Also there must be some threat because the Garleans are using it as a weapon (oh hai lets scatter little bits of meteorite around Eorzea for our invasion)

    SE has said that Dalamud will change everything, not scatter little bits of metorite around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    Size in the sky means nothing, stars are just dots in the sky and they can be over 500x bigger than our sun, perhaps Dalamud was just really far away (and moving really fast)
    Dalamud has been close to Hydaelyn's moon Menphina for hundreds of years so the distance didn't change until recently (1.21) when Dalamud left it's normal course. Menphina though can't be too far away from Hydaelyn, otherwise it wouldn't be affected by the gravity of Hydaelyn and wouldn't be orbiting the planet.
    (And really, just how big would Menphina have to be so we could still see her so big in the sky if she was really far away?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Delsus View Post
    SE has said that Dalamud will change everything, not scatter little bits of metorite around.
    I don't know about you, but from what I know those "little bits of meteorite" are extremely dangerous, leading to massive destruction. Not mass extinction, because it will only affect areas and not EVERYTHING, but it would weaken Eorzea a lot, making it easy for Garlemald to invade what is left of it.
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    Black Mage quest.... "Shatotto Stone" {hmmm}
    That was my first reaction the minute they told me about the thing....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Dalamud has been close to Hydaelyn's moon Menphina for hundreds of years so the distance didn't change until recently (1.21) when Dalamud left it's normal course. Menphina though can't be too far away from Hydaelyn, otherwise it wouldn't be affected by the gravity of Hydaelyn and wouldn't be orbiting the planet.
    (And really, just how big would Menphina have to be so we could still see her so big in the sky if she was really far away?)



    I don't know about you, but from what I know those "little bits of meteorite" are extremely dangerous, leading to massive destruction. Not mass extinction, because it will only affect areas and not EVERYTHING, but it would weaken Eorzea a lot, making it easy for Garlemald to invade what is left of it.
    In grid CS with the empire the white empire guy was talking to the person you see in mission 46 he did not want to go with the plan of using the Dalamud because it would also mean the end for the empire city. But the white empire guy said we still going with our plan we need to wipe out the 5 race and the beastman. He also said that the race that use Dalamud seem to have wipe themself out when they used Dalamud the last time but not 100% sure but don't think it's a Meteor that going to hit Eorzea it may shot stuff to eorzea or something else i guess we have to wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno-Ira View Post
    I can remember something they wanted to merge xi & xiv long time ago. Something about going into moghouse and being able to exit in eorzea. Can someone else remember? Doubt they still onto that idea tho. It's just part of having a story for the 2.0 changes.
    Might be on to something here. Because SE just announced a Vanafest 2012 in Japan for June. These always have some huge announcement at these things. Could it be that V2.0 has some sort of FFXI and XIV integration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    Not too sure about that.
    Dalamud originally was just a tiny dot right next to the moon, so actually it's not that big.
    Considering Hydaelyn has an atmosphere pretty similar to the one our RL earth has, that thing would probably get reduced to way less mass on it's way through the outer layers of the atmosphere and also would probably split up, leading to many meteors of different sizes raining down on Eorzea.
    Looking at all the holes and stuff seen in some 2.0 pictures, I don't think the moon raining down on us would have to lead to mass extinction

    Oh, and just because it was build by people does not make it less of a mini moon.
    My house is not a machine either just because it was built by man.
    Assuming that melphina is of the same size and distance from hydalin as the earths moon. How big would this "Tiny speck" have to be to be visible to the naked eye?

    You do get the its not a moon reference right?
    Go back and watch star wars.
    Write back to me when the empire destroys alderaan by slamming the death star into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    Might be on to something here. Because SE just announced a Vanafest 2012 in Japan for June. These always have some huge announcement at these things. Could it be that V2.0 has some sort of FFXI and XIV integration.
    I heard this year's vanafest was gonna be a weeklong event instead of the usual couple hours, you may be correct. :O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griss View Post
    Assuming that melphina is of the same size and distance from hydalin as the earths moon. How big would this "Tiny speck" have to be to be visible to the naked eye?
    Some satellites with the size of a bus are visible to the naked eye.
    Granted, they are not as far away as the moon, but whatver Dalamud is, it wouldn't have to be too big to be visible from Eorzea.
    So still probably not big enough to lead to mass extinction

    Quote Originally Posted by Griss View Post
    You do get the its not a moon reference right?
    Go back and watch star wars.
    Write back to me when the empire destroys alderaan by slamming the death star into it.
    I'm not into nerdy guys stuff like Star Wars
    Isn't the death star that black orb Darth Vader rides on while screaming NOOOOOOOOO?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno-Ira View Post
    I can remember something they wanted to merge xi & xiv long time ago. Something about going into moghouse and being able to exit in eorzea. Can someone else remember? Doubt they still onto that idea tho. It's just part of having a story for the 2.0 changes.
    if this could legitimately be done, it would be brilliant, simply because the 'ease of access' level in simply teleporting from one game to the other would allow both games to feed off each other and make both stronger.

    i do doubt it will happen though.
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