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    Is Dancer Espirit broken?

    Not sure if there's already a thread on this or anything but is Espirit broken? The tooltip reads "The Espirit Gauge will accumulate when you or a party members under the effect of Espirit land a weaponskill or cast a spell." I've tested it a few times now and even with the Espirit buff up 100% of the time, it doesn't seem to fill when you 'land' a weapon skill or cast a spell. I thought at first perhaps you needed feathers to let the Espirit gauge fill out more, for example 1 feather means you can get up to 20 Espirit, 2 up to 50 Espirit, etc. This wasn't the case. I went slowly through the gauge to 100 with zero feathers.

    I also thought perhaps the mechanic itself has an internal coodldown. This also wasn't the case. There'd be times where I'd gain Espirit with 2 attacks right next to each other. On the other hands, I'd gain absolutely 0 Espirit after attacking 6+ times on some occasions.

    So is the Espirit mechanic completey RNG and the tooltip misguiding? Or is this a bug that went through?
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    Esprit gain is RNG. I don’t think the proc percentage of it has been figured out yet, but it is RNG. Despite the tooltip not directly saying that.
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    Ah well wish that was a bit more clear but oh well. Guess it makes sense.
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    Isn't the proc rate 2% or 5% for standard step (and also up to 5% on technical) depending on how many steps you do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eudyptes View Post
    Isn't the proc rate 2% or 5% for standard step (and also up to 5% on technical) depending on how many steps you do?
    No. Those percentages are the damage buff you and your dance partner get for the number of successful steps performed during Standard and Technical. Current Esprit generation is unknown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    No. Those percentages are the damage buff you and your dance partner get for the number of successful steps performed during Standard and Technical. Current Esprit generation is unknown.
    I can say that, according to some stuff I saw relating to the media tours, Japanese tooltips indicated the Esprit generation chance for the Esprit generated by the dance partner varies based on their job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Esprit gain is RNG. I don’t think the proc percentage of it has been figured out yet, but it is RNG. Despite the tooltip not directly saying that.
    Guess that means dnc are going to love mnk's and MCH since they have the fastest gcds
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    Guess that means dnc are going to love mnk's and MCH since they have the fastest gcds
    They probably have a reduced chance to grant Esprit on each GCD, if the information from the Japanese tooltip was correct about it varying based on job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YanderePrincess View Post
    They probably have a reduced chance to grant Esprit on each GCD, if the information from the Japanese tooltip was correct about it varying based on job.
    If the JP tooltip is still true (current one says the same thing), I’d imagine it’s designed to adjust for jobs that automatically have faster GCDs (e.g., MNK under GL3, NIN under Huton, BRD in Army’s Paeon) so that DNCs aren’t always partnering with them. If it is for the sake of balancing to allow all jobs to have a relatively equal chance at Esprit gain, I’d say that would be fairly smart on the developers part. We will know for certain after the expert DNCs do more testing how it will all play out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    If the JP tooltip is still true (current one says the same thing), I’d imagine it’s designed to adjust for jobs that automatically have faster GCDs (e.g., MNK under GL3, NIN under Huton, BRD in Army’s Paeon) so that DNCs aren’t always partnering with them. If it is for the sake of balancing to allow all jobs to have a relatively equal chance at Esprit gain, I’d say that would be fairly smart on the developers part. We will know for certain after the expert DNCs do more testing how it will all play out.
    Indeed.
    .....Guess that means it'll always go to me! the samurai!!
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