New PLD since SHB release

[Eclair_Xysha]

This is probably what most don't want to hear... But I have been playing Knight since ARR wwlaunch.

I actually didn't like the changes in Knights (Pally). I miss Flash, and having Total Eclipse and its proc combo as a replacer felt very strange to me to get used to, and to actually use. I'm not sure if its just myself doing it wrong, but I had no problems with Flash. I understand that Flash and Total Eclipse has the same 5y radius... yet, I have the most hardest time gathering up mobs with Total Eclipse(than flash). I couldn't for the love of myself figure out why. The pulls are just very slow for me, and I suppose I'm more used to the "speed run" type of pulls with my friends. I have friends that do raiding, hardcore, and while I agree that it is useless in raid tier, I am retired. I have no problems with Flash (let alone keep hate before) in regular dungeon content at all until now... Which is quite embarrassing to watch myself.

The only reason why I think healers probably have a difficult time with knight is because they took out Convalescence and other cool downs. Not to mention, they also scraped a lot out of healers as well... I main WHM and PLD... I was also a bit sad with WHM, but not as much as PLD.

Going back on the point though, I also feel that with the Oath point system, they shouldnt have added Cover onto the Oath system. They should have kept it to where we can utilize it at any time we want as long as its within radius. Many times where I wanted to use Cover, but I couldnt because Sheltron. All of which, costs 50 points each to utilize: Sheltron, Cover, Intervention.

While I understand that there are reasons why a lot of people prefer the new knight setup due to raids, I suppose I feel like something is missing because they took out the uniqueness of each tank classes.

I understand that I also have no say in the matter and just adapt to these new changes anyways, so we'll see if I can just get comfortable with it. And if anyone can give me pointers on how I can utilize T.Eclipse while pulling would be great. Because its obviously not working for me if I use it how I would use Flash.

[Acidblood]

Maybe it's just that I enjoyed Tanking (and PLD specifically) for being a Tank, with personal DPS always taking a back seat, but I feel like the changes have turned 'Tanks' into little more than DPS with extra HP.

I am happy to see stance dancing gone though, and solo gameplay has certainly improved (ironic considering the state of Healers), I just would have preferred it didn't come at the expense of defensive cooldowns. (Oh, and the nerf to Block; #feelsbadman).

NB. I am glad so many people are enjoying the changes, and hopefully they hold up in Raid; however, as someone who has played and enjoyed all 3 roles (Tank, Healer and DPS) fairly evenly across a range of content in both HW and SB I am seriously thinking I may just stick to DPS in ShB.

[Ivellior]

I generally really dislike the tank changes. Tanks are now blue dps.
They also completely removed enmity management and it's shocking that people actually like that. That is akin to removing gcd heals from healers (since they never used them anyway) and give all healers a superbuffed eos so that they can focus on doing damage instead of healing...

As for PLD, they removed way too much PLD defeneses. I would prefer to get more defensive options instead of the new damage options we got.

I've been playing PLD since 2.0 but it seems it's either time to change class or change game...

[Kazzoey]

PLD is the standard for tank design. Everything feels great, but the single Target needs some work. Something feels a little off to me. Otherwise my only issues:
Enhanced Shelltron: should be a 5 sec duration and made available much earlier in progression. Then give us a 10 second upgrade at higher level to sync up with our CDs. 6 seconds is all kinds of wrong.
Holy Spirit/Atonement is horribly out of wack. HS is hilariously weak now even with Req. It does almost half the damage as Atonement. Its use gets diminished into a ranged skill rather than a DPS increase. Either HS is too weak or RA/Atone is too strong.

[SoarenGynthos]

PLD is the standard for tank design. Everything feels great, but the single Target needs some work. Something feels a little off to me. Otherwise my only issues:
Enhanced Shelltron: should be a 5 sec duration and made available much earlier in progression. Then give us a 10 second upgrade at higher level to sync up with our CDs. 6 seconds is all kinds of wrong.

I'd say it needs to be 6 seconds standard and then enhanced needs to make it 8 seconds.

Holy Spirit/Atonement is horribly out of wack. HS is hilariously weak now even with Req. It does almost half the damage as Atonement. Its use gets diminished into a ranged skill rather than a DPS increase. Either HS is too weak or RA/Atone is too strong.

Ehhh... Feels fine for the most part. It attributes to the sustained DPS and the point to me is to bide till spending that req for Confiteor.

Only other real change I would make is to give us a way to generate Oath via Holy Spirit or RA or maybe Holy Circle, by 5 Oath per use. Just something to help for those moments when you're dodging tons of aoes. Thats about it in my opinion other wise I'm really loving how Pally feels right now.