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    Player
    BoazJochin's Avatar
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    Central California
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    Character
    Caiko Kitteh
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90

    New PLD since SHB release

    I have to admit, I am impressed with the new PLD build. I used to only use PLD for single target and would use my war for multiple target dungeons or. with the new build I won't have to do that any more since we can attack multiple targets at once where we would only have flash before.

    I am noticing that the healers are having issues keeping up heals and as a PLD I am having to assist the healers In healing the party. I have no problem holding hate at all.

    what is your take on the new PLD rotations?
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    Phileas's Avatar
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    Character
    Dia Beetus
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Paladin feels complete. Shelltron feels good, full aoe magic and physical rotation and easy to recover mp.insta cast spells feel so good. Overall it’s a ton of fun in dungeons and is my new main after being war since 3.0

    Welcome back paladin son. Even if it might not be as hig damage as war I just love the feel of cycling between expelling mp and recovering mp while using shelltron and cds for mitigation. Atonement is a wonderful addition to the fight or flight rotation and everything works in harmony at 78. Confiteor will be the icing on this cake.
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    TheForce's Avatar
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    Character
    The Protector
    World
    Aegis
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by BoazJochin View Post
    I have to admit, I am impressed with the new PLD build. I used to only use PLD for single target and would use my war for multiple target dungeons or. with the new build I won't have to do that any more since we can attack multiple targets at once where we would only have flash before.

    I am noticing that the healers are having issues keeping up heals and as a PLD I am having to assist the healers In healing the party. I have no problem holding hate at all.

    what is your take on the new PLD rotations?
    Former DRK main here, pulled a Cecil after seeing how Square Enix butchered my class. But yes, PLD is the sh*t lol.

    I'm absolutely loving it, like another poster said, it feels COMPLETE. Very much so. Also, Holy Circle's animation is absolutely beautiful. I'm not stuck spamming one combo over and over like I had to do on DRK either; I feel like I have some freedom in how I play. Can't wait to hit 80, at 73 right now!
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    Player CorbinDallas's Avatar
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    Character
    Korbin Dallas
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Has anyone else been experiencing an issue with Requiescat where you use it but don't get the buff? There's been a couple of trash pulls when I'll hit Requi to start my Holy Circle x4 > Confiteor, only for me to start hard casting Holy Circle. Could it be lag?
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    Ivellior's Avatar
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    Elliana Brightsoul
    World
    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    Has anyone else been experiencing an issue with Requiescat where you use it but don't get the buff? There's been a couple of trash pulls when I'll hit Requi to start my Holy Circle x4 > Confiteor, only for me to start hard casting Holy Circle. Could it be lag?
    I think you mana needs above 80% or something like that. If it isn't you don't get the buff if I recall correctly.
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  6. #6
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    Jimmymagic's Avatar
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    Character
    Hector Dragonslayer
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    I am really enjoying Pally. Kudos to SE as I main Pally, and seems right fit for all the changes to other jobs. Also, I actually use heal a lot more now which I like and the rotations are simple. Lots of fun so far.
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    Freerider's Avatar
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    Character
    Lyle Freerider
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    I'd say in reference to healers not being able to heal the party is largely due to either inexperienced players, you aren't pulling aggro fast enough, the pulls are too big for the healer, or they just aren't used to healing the bigger hits.
    You can also help this a ton by making sure you are rotating cooldowns correctly and stunning hits that you can. Stufff hits a lot harder this expansion and Astro and Sch are having slight issues keeping up. Just do your best to mitigate what you can and make sure if you have party members that can help mitigate stuff like dancer's shield samba that they are using it.
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    Player
    Big-Isaac's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    J'enna Vale
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    I'm not sold yet, I gotta say. Level 77 now.
    My problem with PLD has always been how set in stone and inflexible the rotation is, and unfortunately nothing has changed about that. That's why I enjoyed SB DRK the most out of all the tanks (RIP)
    In SB, you switched between your physical phase with GB>RA>RA>repeat and your magic phase with Req>HS
    Now in ShB, the phases are still there, with only difference being that you need 2 additional buttons to go through them - Atonement and Confiteor

    Having to cancel a cast of HS or HC because some AoE landed under me is one of the most annoying aspects of the job for me (yeah, not gonna go BLM anytime soon) and that's going to end in one level's time, so maybe that'll tie the job together for me.
    The job has actual AoE gameplay now, which is great. Spin to win is fun, I imagine Holy Circle will be as well after 78, and it's the one part where I can imagine Confiteor actually feeling good.
    Shelltron is really satisfying to use now - would be nice if generating gauge was less dull and automated, but hey, it's a start
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    Last edited by Big-Isaac; 07-01-2019 at 11:15 PM.

  9. #9
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    MaraD_'s Avatar
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    Hede Devaul
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Freerider View Post
    making sure you are rotating cooldowns correctly
    are we playing the same game?
    they took away all the CDs for auto attacks.

    if you try to do this, you'll be out of CDs for the next pull.

    if anything, pretty much one CD at the start of a pull, and then hope u have another by the 4th pull or so.
    The only thing else u can throw up every time its up, is sheltron.
    but even then u wont be able to keep up other CDs with sheltron 100% of the time.

    The lack of CDs to manage and keep up completely ruined tanking for me.
    I like playing defensively, but I cant distinguish being a DPS or a tank.
    I dont even need my tank stance on. Ive gone multiple pulls w/o my threat stance up, not even realizing its not on, because base DPS is high enough to hold hate over everyone else.
    While I usually tanked in sword oath plenty before, I still had to throw it up in plenty of scenarios in 4man dungeons. Now it feels useless, ive yet to come across a group who can rip hate off a tank with it off. (Granted Ive main tanked in 24man fights with only sword oath, NOT being the 1st puller, not using any threat moves, and still holding hate over 24 other people before as well, but it wasnt the "usual".)

    I'm sure more peopel will like new tanking, since its the literal blue DPS. But the lack of a proper defense job in this game, im not as invested. I like defense 1st and foremost.
    Lack of CDs on tanks was the last straw.
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    Last edited by MaraD_; 07-01-2019 at 11:49 PM.

  10. #10
    Player
    Big-Isaac's Avatar
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    J'enna Vale
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    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    That's why I say this game would benefit greatly from an active mitigation model.
    Funnily enough, PLD is already almost there.

    - make Sheltron also increase your block chance by 100% (as in double the strength of the block, not make it 120%)
    - give us control over how much gauge we generate, with optimal play resulting in more. E.g. Confiteor could grant 10 for every HS you used during that Re
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