What have you done?

[MerlinCross]

But healers where fine with tanks tanking in dps stance. So long as you use cooldowns on tank busters. This coming from an ultra casual player.

I like to think I'm also pretty casual but in my experience no one has ever yelled at me for MT'ing in tank stance over "Oh no you didn't do enough damage, why you fail us tank?". I also know I've had heart attacks when the Tank runs in after a wipe without Tank Stance. Weird he didn't argue that he wanted to do more damage when the group reminded him.

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"For your fellow DPS"

I'm sorry. Did I enter the wrong section? *Checks*, no I'm in Tank section. Why should I count as a DPS as Tank? Hello?

You are however right in a way. I don't usually do Savage. I do the normal 8 man raids, and the 24 man. And you know I know this is one person's experience but I don't recall anyone yelling at me for having Tank Stance on when I'm being the MT. Oh I've had plently of people tell me and at times insult me if I forget to turn it on but actually having it on? No I don't think anyone has gone "Turn your stance off, we can't win otherwise.". Hmm, if random people I do DF normal causal raids with aren't the most causal people(myself included) and they aren't telling me that I should be turning off my Tank Stance, who IS telling me I should be turning off my tank stance?

You don't need to tell me. I already know. The same people that followed the STR Accessory meta back in Heavensward.

Personally I think making the Tanks just meaty DPS is the wrong way but hey, Tanks are probably easier to gauge on meters than DPS who have to dance around.

I like to think of myself as Causal. I mean I'm probably going to take another week to clear the expansion or so. I've only cleared A9S and 05S. And even before I tried to push as much damage as was possible in tank stance if I was MT. I'll continue to try to push as much damage now with the Tank changes.

My first job however is to use my CD's to blunt incoming damage. It's not holding Aggro anymore so my focus is on Not dying or giving my Healers heart failures. But I'm probably still going to get complaints about how I, a causal, should be helping the causal DPS out more because of timers, and progress, and yadda yadda. I am casual. Why should I suddenly become expert pro raider if the DPS aren't pulling their weight?

In the words of another series; "Get. Good". My job is to make it easier for the healer to keep me alive, my job isn't to carry you across the finish line.