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    MoonbemSupreme's Avatar
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    Aventasia Leonheart
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    Another thing, Dark Arts was a nonsense ability that you had to spam constantly and I very glad they got rid of it from the rotation and put it as an icon I just have to keep an eye on. Furthermore, thank god they also got rid of Power Slash! That was a lame looking attack...
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoonbemSupreme View Post
    Another thing, Dark Arts was a nonsense ability that you had to spam constantly and I very glad they got rid of it from the rotation and put it as an icon I just have to keep an eye on.
    Are you glad that Darkside is also now just an icon that you keep your eye on while spamming Edge/Flood constantly into your one combo rotation ?
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    Y: I usually compare FFXIV with a theme park, but the Forbidden Land of Eureka won’t be a place where everyone would want to go. For example, there are people who don’t want to go to horror houses because they don’t see the point in getting scared on purpose. For example, on a date, the boyfriend might want to invite the girlfriend to go the horror house, but the girlfriend just doesn’t seem to find it fun. In other words, it’s not like everyone wants to go to the horror house, but there are people who just love the adrenalin rush they get from it. Think of Eureka as something like that.

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    The Protector
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MoonbemSupreme View Post
    Another thing, Dark Arts was a nonsense ability and you had to spam constantly and I very glad they got rid of it from the rotation and put it as an icon I just have to keep an eye on. Furthermore, thank god they also got rid of Power Slash! That was a lame looking attack...
    Lol, hold on. I had to read this a second time.

    So, you're glad they got rid of Dark Arts because you needed to spam it, but you're also glad you only have one single target combo now that you're forced to spam? What are you even talking about dude.
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    Shao Kuraisenshi
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    6.0 to don't lose the tradition we remove soul eater combo, now DRK is all spaming bloodspiller please looking forward to it.
    yuhuuu the job is super fast now, it feels good it have a lot of identity.

    That's our future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    6.0 to don't lose the tradition we remove soul eater combo, now DRK is all spaming bloodspiller please looking forward to it.
    yuhuuu the job is super fast now, it feels good it have a lot of identity.

    That's our future.
    LOOOOOOOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EpicOverlord85 View Post
    I’ve heard that Paladin is in a far better state right now and while it’s tempting to switch I just don’t have the energy or enthusiasm to level my Paladin again (sitting at 54 since HW). If this is the route the game will be taking (and potentially doubling down on it) I’m not sure I want to stick around anymore which makes me sad because I’ve been subbed for over three straight years and never once doubted the game.
    You on Crystal? I can tag along with you as you're leveling and hopefully that'll make things more enjoyable.
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    A'syree Sato
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scremin View Post
    First, don't double post, second, oh my god, aren't you a little overdramatic over changes? Before you spammed 1-2-3 while weaving DA, now you spam 1-2-3 while weaving Flood/Edge of Darkness/Shadow... what's so different from DA? Roughly the same cost, and more potency, because let's face it, DA was just something to buff an attack for 140 potency, nothing more, no nuance, no decision making, you had MP, you used DA for the potency gain, simple as that. Let's not forget the other cds, C&S, AD, let alone BS. So while you are doing your 1-2-3 combo there's always something coming off cooldown to use. And please don't comment on blood weapon speed buff, it wasn't that great to begin with, will we miss it? Yes we will, but not that bad.

    So while you claim it's boring you to tears, then you are either A: doing it wrong, or B: DRK is not the job for you anymore, probably never was, you put too much value in your ilusion of decision making. You want more combos? Well there's GNB and PLD for that, i like the OGCD style of DRK more.

    So please stop calling it shallow? While it doesn't work for you, clearly is working for a lot of people, and your dramatic attitude over changes is really annoying at the very least.
    When did I double post? Just responding to people, forgot about the quote bit as it’s been a while. Also over dramatic? I calmly laid out the problems I see with the new design how I preferred some of the older iterations, if that’s all it take to set you off I think you have bigger problems than myself. Then again it seems you’ve been quite antagonistic others from the get go so I can’t say I’m too surprised sadly.

    You’re right it isn’t different which is exactly why I have a problem with it. They replaced a boring mechanic that let you choose things to buff with a boring mechanic that lets you do more damage. Also I will comment on the blood weapons speed buff being removed because I liked the speed it brought to the class during boss fights. Will I miss it? Yes, very much so.

    How am I doing it wrong? How can I possibly do “1-2-3 while keeping dark side up” wrong? And yes I’ve been maining DRK since HW so It must have never had a job for me. Cant believe you’re actually trying to imply that I had no interest in the job after I played it for four years just because I don’t like the new iteration, christ and you called me dramatic.

    Nope. I feel it’s a shallow gameplay change and will call it out as such. Don’t like me saying it? Oh well. And guess what? There are also of old DRK mains that don’t like the changes so I guess that evens that out huh?
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    A'syree Sato
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheForce View Post
    You on Crystal? I can tag along with you as you're leveling and hopefully that'll make things more enjoyable.
    Jenova sadly, but thanks for the invite!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scremin View Post
    Oh please, we went over this already yesterday have we not? You just ran out of arguments. You can express them yes, but not call it bad or shallow everyday on everythread, like you do, it's annoying, even in threads where the op just says he likes the damn thing you have to take all that negativity of yours there, I'm fed up with it. At this point you are almost a troll....
    Says the guy picking fights with everyone. I think everyone just needs to calm down, relax, and return to having a civil discussion regardless of which side they are on.
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    Player Scremin's Avatar
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    Hyen Scremin
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by EpicOverlord85 View Post
    When did I double post? Just responding to people, forgot about the quote bit as it’s been a while. Also over dramatic? I calmly laid out the problems I see with the new design how I preferred some of the older iterations, if that’s all it take to set you off I think you have bigger problems than myself. Then again it seems you’ve been quite antagonistic others from the get go so I can’t say I’m too surprised sadly.

    You’re right it isn’t different which is exactly why I have a problem with it. They replaced a boring mechanic that let you choose things to buff with a boring mechanic that lets you do more damage. Also I will comment on the blood weapons speed buff being removed because I liked the speed it brought to the class during boss fights. Will I miss it? Yes, very much so.

    How am I doing it wrong? How can I possibly do “1-2-3 while keeping dark side up” wrong? And yes I’ve been maining DRK since HW so It must have never had a job for me. Cant believe you’re actually trying to imply that I had no interest in the job after I played it for four years just because I don’t like the new iteration, christ and you called me dramatic.

    Nope. I feel it’s a shallow gameplay change and will call it out as such. Don’t like me saying it? Oh well. And guess what? There are also of old DRK mains that don’t like the changes so I guess that evens that out huh?
    Again, stop with your overdramatic crap. I'm one of those "old DRK mains", been here since HW, and i like those changes a lot, so you can stop with that gatekeeping. And you can tell, as you yourself said, that you see others as well having fun with it. It just didn't clik for you... YOU!
    It's not shallow, you just don't like it, and are throwing a dramatic tantrum, because let's see the words you used: struggling to even play the game, don't have the energy left, I might not stick around on the game over it... Don't tell me that's not overdramatic.
    Well then leave already. all you do is complain, and while you claim DRK lost it's "complexity", you also claim:

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicOverlord85 View Post
    Yet we still have Living Dead and it’s still useless as ever.
    Wich makes one wonder how much do you really know about the job in the first place? Is it a good cooldown? Nope, now is it useless? Hell no, can cheese a lot of mechanics with it. It's very, very far from being useless.

    Quote Originally Posted by EpicOverlord85 View Post
    Says the guy picking fights with everyone. I think everyone just needs to calm down, relax, and return to having a civil discussion regardless of which side they are on.
    Well it's not just me refuting all those complains. Of that I can assure you. However I do agree everyone should calm down, both sides, and stop spamming the forums.
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    Last edited by Scremin; 07-02-2019 at 08:50 PM.

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