What have you done?

[shao32]

I didn't run out of arguments I just get tired of playing volleyball with you.
Again you just read what you want, nedkel say we get what we ask and I give him proof that this version of DRK is wasn't what we ask, I don't care what is lyth opinion now BCS that wasn't the point but looks like it was a point in your imagination, despite of that I respect lyth opinion now.

So im going to say how this will be, im not gonna change bcs I still consider DRK need several tweaks to make it properly fun and I will still respectfully complaint until SE do it bcs I love DRK and I don't care if you like that or not since I'm going to ignore you now excep you start spreading false info like many that claim they like the job did all this days, so bye bye sir.

[Nobuyuki_Sanada]

It's interesting to see so many people complain because the job is too easy now, and ask what do I manage? My first question to you would be what content are you playing? Basic dungeons and trials are very easy on every class; its meant to give you an introduction and "training" so you can enjoy the story and prepare you for later more difficult content. Thinking your job is too easy is more likely a reflection of you playing too easy of content. Join a extreme trial and then see how easy your class is to play when all of those mechanics are going off. No more staring at your hotbar or no using half your CD's. Tanks can run through dungeons without popping a single CD and still clear, Healers dont have to dps and can still clear, and DPS dont have to do anything as long as the other two do their jobs.

[Barachim]

Gotta side with the ones not liking the Dark Knight changes. Since the release of Dark Knight, it was my go to Tank. I played Warrior and Paladin as well, but Dark Knight was always my favorite. I heard a lot of complaints about the Job in the past, but rarely ever cared about any of them. I was never a number cruncher, never will be. All that mattered to me was that the Job was fun to play. Mitigation might not have been optimal, it might not have been a beast like the Warrior, Blood Price was nerfed to oblivion (ok, that one bothered me >_< ), but to me, the Job was still fun to play. I always stuck with it and never wavered. But now... now I am contemplating switching to Gunbreaker, because Dark Knight ceased to be fun. It's a viable Tank, but it now feels boring, and that's the worst thing you can do to a Job.

[Perodor]

Gotta side with the ones not liking the Dark Knight changes. Since the release of Dark Knight, it was my go to Tank. I played Warrior and Paladin as well, but Dark Knight was always my favorite. I heard a lot of complaints about the Job in the past, but rarely ever cared about any of them. I was never a number cruncher, never will be. All that mattered to me was that the Job was fun to play. Mitigation might not have been optimal, it might not have been a beast like the Warrior, Blood Price was nerfed to oblivion (ok, that one bothered me >_< ), but to me, the Job was still fun to play. I always stuck with it and never wavered. But now... now I am contemplating switching to Gunbreaker, because Dark Knight ceased to be fun. It's a viable Tank, but it now feels boring, and that's the worst thing you can do to a Job.

Jop. I don't care too much if a tank is 5% worse than another. Drk was fun because it hat a unique playstyle. I totaly get that other ppl prefere WAR oder PLD. But why did they have to change DRK in this way. Just leave it alone. Maybe not everyone want's to play it like it was in HW or SB, but some ppl loved it. Now it's just plane boring. You can spam 1 skill and feel happy about your "awesome" new 80 skill. For me it's just shiny and no soul anymore

[EpicOverlord85]

When you start a phrase with: not to be rude, guess what, you are gonna be rude, let the dude have his fun?



Yes, the moment you try to use how long you play the job to win an argument, it IS gatekeeping, because it's basically saying your opinion have more weight that those that started the job later, wich it doesn't, at all.



"Multitude of topics" lol. Just stop, there's plenty of people refuting the overdramatic ones like yourself, and then there's the constructive criticisms in those posts that people doesn't refute, you know why? Because they don't go saying: DRK is bad, is broken, no reason to play it blabla. Instead give actual criticisms while not looking at a job that never was, like you do. Please, aggro management a thing? God.
And also, putting it the same way as you do, there's also a "multitude of topics" and "multitude of posts" that refute basically everything you complain about.



Oh i did explain it, I really did, you just don't like it, thats all there is to it! Doesn't mean is shallow. You say you also didn't like SB DRK, then what did you like about HW one?
Because ShB is closer to HW than SB ever was. But really it's not my job to teach you how to actually try and have fun with a job.

Your personal preference =!= the job actually being bad, because if it was, there wouldn't be people having fun with it. And don't go again on that: old school DRK players, because there are plenty of those as well.



Yes you are overdramatic, you can be disappointed all you want, but that's your own problem for not liking it. The moment you go to a forum calling certain jobs bad, boring, or poor design gameplay, you should expect to get some heat back from players that like those very jobs you call bad. I'm sorry for defending a job I like and also play for years from someone who is blatantly saying it sucks, while using arguments that make no real sense, with some REAL rose tinted glasses on. Next timego to a forum and say you don't like x for y, instead of saying x and y sucks, and you will have way less people talking back.



I'm not gonna even... Need rework? it's not even a priority... Living Dead works just fine. I don't like it, but it does it's job just fine, what are you even on about?

You know I tried to have a civil discussion with you, but looking at our little back and forth it’s become increasingly obvious you have no interest in that. Do as you will as far as this thread is concerned, but I won’t be responding to you anymore. There’s no point in me trying to reason with a brick wall.

[EpicOverlord85]

Gotta side with the ones not liking the Dark Knight changes. Since the release of Dark Knight, it was my go to Tank. I played Warrior and Paladin as well, but Dark Knight was always my favorite. I heard a lot of complaints about the Job in the past, but rarely ever cared about any of them. I was never a number cruncher, never will be. All that mattered to me was that the Job was fun to play. Mitigation might not have been optimal, it might not have been a beast like the Warrior, Blood Price was nerfed to oblivion (ok, that one bothered me >_< ), but to me, the Job was still fun to play. I always stuck with it and never wavered. But now... now I am contemplating switching to Gunbreaker, because Dark Knight ceased to be fun. It's a viable Tank, but it now feels boring, and that's the worst thing you can do to a Job.

And this is where I am so I know exactly how you feel dude. I just hope Sqaure adds something to spice it up.

[Scremin]

You know I tried to have a civil discussion with you, but looking at our little back and forth it’s become increasingly obvious you have no interest in that. Do as you will as far as this thread is concerned, but I won’t be responding to you anymore. There’s no point in me trying to reason with a brick wall.

Don't hide behind that trying to be civil argument, you are condescending, and passive agressive towards anyone that has an different opinion than you, get out of your high horse.

Also, aren't YOU the thick headed brick wall? Trying to enforce your dramatic opinions about how bad and broken the classes are so hard, that everyone else is wrong? Please, if you can't take a heated discussion, don't start one. I'm not the one calling you names Not untill now at least

[Mistyregions]

Who has 3 buttons to press raise your hands? Because I have 12 I have to press in a specific time window to maximize my job.

Who is only using 3 butto.....OOO nvm I see what's going on here is not the class changes, it's the player inability!

[shao32]

Who has 3 buttons to press raise your hands? Because I have 12 I have to press in a specific time window to maximize my job.

Who is only using 3 butto.....OOO nvm I see what's going on here is not the class changes, it's the player inability!

It's not a question of how many buttons you press, is how often you do it and DRK spend 80% of the time pressing the same 123 combo with a casual bloodspiller and edge/cns/ad waiting to spam bloodspiller.

[Scremin]

Same stuff as other 575647 posts.

He is contradicting himself again, changing points again, to pursue his agenda, don't waste your time trying to explain anything to him, as it was explained to death already

Who has 3 buttons to press raise your hands? Because I have 12 I have to press in a specific time window to maximize my job.

Who is only using 3 butto.....OOO nvm I see what's going on here is not the class changes, it's the player inability!

My thoughts exactly