Bard - too few skills?

[MOZZYSTAR]

Is it just me or does Bard have too few abilities? Even with role actions I know (and don't know if) I'll use & up to level 80 abilities, I have four empty spaces on my hotbar... When I tried applying some, turns out they were just higher level versions of others, like Heavy Shot / Burst Shot.

Would it be possible to get more skills? It honestly feels like BRD has less skills than the other classes I have because some are "level up" as they go, like the aforementioned heavy shot (other examples: venom bite > caustic bite; straight shot > refulgant arrow). DRK I was able to fill up completely. Weird complaint, I know.

Edit: our support skills would be really nice to have back. Would fill those empty spaces perfectly. Maybe even through in an AoE DoT or spread. /Halo, sparkles

[Priya]

Welp, guess I'll be looking into Bard. RDM has more active abilities than I'd like, now. An AoE rotation for dungeon trash doesn't need 4 unique abilities.

[ICountFrom0]

While bar's GCD sometimes reduces down to using the same skill 5 - 10 times in a row, using another to just reset timers, it's not slow or boring for me, I've got so many off global abilities to weave in that I'm closer to overwhelmed then bored.... and I don't even have them all yet.

[gumas]

i still not sure shadowbite is an effective skill or not. in bard case, when you have a lot of enemy (5+) the good way is just spam quick nock and ROD nonstop, now that TP is gone, i can even spam quick nock more than i should.

doting all enemy one by one will just resulting the enemy die when you finally finish doting them all or usually only end up with 1-2 enemy left, thus no reason to use shadowbite at all, might as well use sidewinder instead.

they should change shadowbite to a skill that spread our dot in certain radius if you hit to enemy that has your dot.

also... almost every class now has aoe combo, where's ours yoshi? =/

[DarkMasamune]

I'm feeling a bit lost without the Straight Shot needing to be up at all time tbh, old habits die hard lol

But it feels alright, althought yeah, it kind of feels like we don't have much skills.

[TheRealQuah]

You only need to apply the dots to one mob to cast the effect of shadowbite on all of them. It's damage calculation goes only off the target. Bard has never been a combo class, it's about procs, so it makes sense that our aoe "rotation" is proc based. With the trait added to quick nock it's proccing almost every time.

[gumas]

ah so i just need my main target to be dot and the rest splash damage is consider as full 2 dot damage? i guess i miss the tooltip meaning .

[Mugear_bahamut]

Is it just me or does Bard have too few abilities? Even with role actions I know (and don't know if) I'll use & up to level 80 abilities, I have four empty spaces on my hotbar... When I tried applying some, turns out they were just higher level versions of others, like Heavy Shot / Burst Shot.

Would it be possible to get more skills? It honestly feels like BRD has less skills than the other classes I have because some are "level up" as they go, like the aforementioned heavy shot (other examples: venom bite > caustic bite; straight shot > refulgant arrow). DRK I was able to fill up completely. Weird complaint, I know.

Edit: our support skills would be really nice to have back. Would fill those empty spaces perfectly. Maybe even through in an AoE DoT or spread. /Halo, sparkles

Been playing bard since the first hour of early access, and it feels really good. You'll get it when you gitgud.
Bard is a pretty busy job, add all the songs' 20% procs and you get a 60~100% everytime, constantly needing to spam the proc'd buttons. It's completely fine as it is.

[Xieldras]

Been playing bard since the first hour of early access, and it feels really good. You'll get it when you gitgud.
Bard is a pretty busy job, add all the songs' 20% procs and you get a 60~100% everytime, constantly needing to spam the proc'd buttons. It's completely fine as it is.

"Get good" is such a weak argument. The reality is Bard had abilities removed despite not suffering from Button Bloat like the rest of the classes. Our Role Actions are still terrible and mostly useless, and now with the removal of our Support-styled Role Actions, we have nothing from that section to add to our hotbar.

[Straynge]

I'm feeling a bit lost without the Straight Shot needing to be up at all time tbh, old habits die hard lol

But it feels alright, althought yeah, it kind of feels like we don't have much skills.

Same here. I'm constantly hitting my button where Straight Shot used to be. Just old habits I guess. I had the timing pretty much down in my head so that I'd hit it every so often to refresh it and it's throwing me off not having it. I truly miss feeling like a support class but other than that not too much has changed.