What is this class design of Dancer?

[Millybonk]

I've been messing around with Dancer hitting a dummy and the whole class feels like a way worse MCH in terms of "50% chance to unlock an ability for execution":

• 2 single-target + 2 AoE abilities are always usable, also you can use Standard Dance on CD
• 4 abilities are of the "50% chance to unlock" kind
• 2 abilities are "50% chance to unlock after using a 50% chance to unlock ability"

How is this class any fun?
Pressing the same 4 buttons over and over, hoping that one of the other 4, any then maybe one of the other 2 will unlock.

[JediFirefly]

No one's making you play it.

I've heard nothing but good things about it all day from everyone I've talked to, it's something I don't think I'd enjoy so I'm not going to play it.

[Gihwezi]

Yes it's a proc-based job, sure, but that's my niche, that's what I'm good at, and this job plays nowhere near the same way as mch (did, I'm assuming? since old mch is dead and all...). Anyway, Dancer is really fluid, seems like it's something really easy to pick up, and as of right now it hits like a fourteen wheeler truck.

Like JediFirefly said, no one's holding a gun up to your head forcing you to play it. :x

[Millybonk]

Yes it's a proc-based job, sure, but that's my niche, that's what I'm good at, and this job plays nowhere near the same way as mch (did, I'm assuming? since old mch is dead and all...). Anyway, Dancer is really fluid, seems like it's something really easy to pick up, and as of right now it hits like a fourteen wheeler truck.

Like JediFirefly said, no one's holding a gun up to your head forcing you to play it. :x

I'm really curious about upcoming parses of the class, because if you don't hit those 50% proc-chances for the majority of your abilities I reckon your damage output is quite laughable.
The previous MCH iteration also used the 50% proc-chance during your basic rotation to unlock the 2nd and 3rd ability(or rather to massively increase their potency), but now Dancer triples the abilities locked behind a 50% chance.

It is just me, or does both your "No one is forcing you to play it" really mean "Please don't voice your dissent on the forums".

[Gihwezi]

It is just me, or does both your "No one is forcing you to play it" really mean "Please don't voice your dissent on the forums".

No offense, and I mean this in the most respectful way possible, no disrespect at all but, man, nobody cares if you don't like Dancer or not, it's not that deep, go take a nap.

[LeonDalmasca]

You're all wrong about MCH. You ALWAYS had 100% proc during wildfire burst (Which is what matters), so it was pretty consistent. BRD had it worse, since it had no guarantee that refulgerent would've been up during raging strikes + barrage window.

Everyone saying Dancer hits like a truck.. Well I only play'd MCH so far but I felt like my dps went 50% higher than it was. New overheat is down right broken, drill is hitting a 18sec cd 40k. Yesterday on lv70 alliance raid we speeded up a bit compared to pre patch. I dare to say all dps classes received significant buffs now that Healers are not an active dps class.

[Millybonk]

No offense, and I mean this in the most respectful way possible, no disrespect at all but, man, nobody cares if you don't like Dancer or not, it's not that deep, go take a nap.

1. You did respond to my post about the quite lacking Dancer mechanics when you just could've read it and not said anything, which means you indeed do care to some degree
2. You didn't falsify my points and rather claimed that 6 abilities locked behind a 50% chance is a "niche"
3. You're using a language which quite clearly shows you're getting emotional + you really don't want to hear a dissident dissect your beloved Dancer

[Hydrium]

3. You're using a language which quite clearly shows you're getting emotional + you really don't want to hear a dissident dissect your beloved Dancer

This is such a stale and terrible argument and has no basis in human psychology whatsoever.

You can find people contrarian and dim, tell them so and not raise your blood pressure a speck.

[Gihwezi]

1. You did respond to my post about the quite lacking Dancer mechanics when you just could've read it and not said anything, which means you indeed do care to some degree
2. You didn't falsify my points and rather claimed that 6 abilities locked behind a 50% chance is a "niche"
3. You're using a language which quite clearly shows you're getting emotional + you really don't want to hear a dissident dissect your beloved Dancer

I dunno man, you seem kinda cranky and bent out of shape, you on here arguing about a job that ain't even been out a day. 'Beloved Dancer'? Bruh we've only been playing this job for a day and some people just like what they see, like me. Again... it's not that deep? Idk what you want me to tell you ffff.

EDIT: Also I said it's my niche, not that it's niche... :T

Also I mained Bard, anyone who come into this thread screaming and crying about Dancer's proc system this, Dancer's proc system that, honestly, if you ain't heavily mess with 4.0 Bard I don't even want to hear about how bad Dancer's proc system to you is, goodbye.

[Millybonk]

This is such a stale and terrible argument and has no basis in human psychology whatsoever.

You can find people contrarian and dim, tell them so and not raise your blood pressure a speck.

It doesn't?

Take a look at his posting history in this thread and you should notice the quick change of writing style between 2 posts from being content to "Nobody cares, take a nap".
You tell me if that quick change doesn't imply a quite visible change in getting emotionally invested.