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    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Dancer Lv 74
    My only issue is that the actual dance concept seems woefully oversold and that's a bit of a shame to me. The dances are basically 1-minute upkeep buffs for you and another person that require a little DDR minigame to get maximum value from. I was hoping they'd be a more integral part of the job but I'm still having fun leveling it ATM.

    As others have already said, having enjoyed 2.x BRD and 4.x BRD with Bloodletter/Mage's procs I also enjoy DNC's less static rotation. The ability animations flow together beautifully while not looking overly feminine IMO, and honestly if the dances were a bit more than just a slightly interactive maintenance buff it would be my main for sure. Right now I'm having a blast leveling it but not sure it's "main" material for me. Can definitely see why it has tons of appeal though, which is where I suppose I and the OP differ.
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    Atlas-04's Avatar
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    Atlyss Sol
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    The dances are basically 1-minute upkeep buffs for you and another person that require a little DDR minigame to get maximum value from.
    Standard finish hits really really hard and I've been told you use it every 30s. Not sure of the math but I'll gladly believe it to play ddr twice as often.
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    Driavna's Avatar
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    Elara Almasombria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    Standard finish hits really really hard and I've been told you use it every 30s. Not sure of the math but I'll gladly believe it to play ddr twice as often.
    Using every 30s is not a great idea, but let me explain why:

    Standard finish needs 4 GCD, your regular single target (x2) combo is 900 potency vs 1000 potency from the standard finish. Sounds good, right? Sure, but there is a catch: dance moves can't generate flourish procs, and you want to generate as many procs as you can. After all, a dancer has 3 layers of RNG: Flourish-> Feather-> Fan III.

    Edit: I was wrong, ignore this.
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    Last edited by Driavna; 06-29-2019 at 10:36 PM.

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    Lalah Elakta
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Using every 30s is not a great idea, but let me explain why:

    Standard finish needs 4 GCD, your regular single target (x2) combo is 900 potency vs 1000 potency from the standard finish. Sounds good, right? Sure, but there is a catch: dance moves can't generate flourish procs, and you want to generate as many procs as you can. After all, a dancer has 3 layers of RNG: Flourish-> Feather-> Fan III.
    Standard finish does not need 4 GCD's. Each step move takes 1 second. GCD is 2.5 seconds.

    Standard finish is 1000 potency. Cascade is 200, Fountain is 250, using these 2 skills takes 5 seconds. Standard finish takes less time to cast than this and hits almost twice as hard.
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    Last edited by WaterShield; 06-29-2019 at 10:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Standard finish does not need 4 GCD's. Each step move takes 1 second. GCD is 2.5 seconds. Using Standard finish is higher potency.
    I stand corrected then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Standard finish does not need 4 GCD's. Each step move takes 1 second. GCD is 2.5 seconds.

    Standard finish is 1000 potency. Cascade is 200, Fountain is 250, using these 2 skills takes 5 seconds. Standard finish takes less time to cast than this and hits almost twice as hard.
    Thank you for explaining that, I was away after posting so couldn't do it myself
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    Standard finish hits really really hard and I've been told you use it every 30s. Not sure of the math but I'll gladly believe it to play ddr twice as often.
    You do, but I guess I was expecting something a bit more persistent like BRD's SB songs, which had some neat layers to them. I would have loved to combine different dances for different upkeep buffs, for instance.

    Obviously as I said elsewhere though the class plays perfectly fine and feels fluid, the above viewpoint is just personal expectations not matching reality. :P
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    Shin Ayumi
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    Ninja Lv 90
    So dont play it. Im loving the class, did 3 dungeons so far, and its so fun to play.
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    Carmine Altair
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    Samurai Lv 80
    I enjoy it. A lot of people do.

    I think that matters more than someone who doesn't.
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    Level 80: SAM | SCH | PLD | DNC

    Leveling: AST | WAR | MCH

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    Koukie Monster
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    Malboro
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    Sage Lv 90
    I’m actually enjoying the class, it’s really fun and I love the weapon and animations. I also like that it’s a proc class. You don’t have to play it if you don’t want to.
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