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  1. #21
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    DiznypKC's Avatar
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    Tehryn Alexandyr
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Adeacia View Post
    Last time I played SCH I did a leveling roulette and got a high level dungeon when I didn't even know how to play SCH since I leveled SMN instead and decided to try SCH for the heck of it. Had no idea what I was doing but caught on really fast due to being a WHM main. I really didn't do much for dps since there wasn't much there which is why it was so easy for me to pick up. When people claim that pressing 1 2 3 is SO much different than pressing 1 1 1 to do the exact same thing, I know not to listen to certain complaints.
    Girl, then you didn’t play Scholar.
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  2. #22
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    Ayer2015's Avatar
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    Ayer Austen
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    I'm enjoying WHM a lot. Frankly I dont see what all the complaining about it is regarding. Afflatus Solace has replaced cure 1 and 2 for me, unless things are really going bad for the tank.
    I will say that I miss Aero 3 though.
    (4)

  3. #23
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I really don't see the difference between current whm and SB whm... Like, we lost aero3, okay I suppose (beside the cool visual this wasn't the selling point for me when plying...)
    I also don't see how people can still mourn stones kin. (manu also seem to forget the fact that we got a stone skin ogcd on a 30s for SB that got improved for ShB)

    WHM plays exactly the seem same

    I would understand disappointment of whm not changing much (afflatus spells are simply instant medica/cure so nothing properly new)
    But I don't see how how the current whm can feel bland compared to SB one, beside missing spamming more dots.

    Regarding the comment of loosing skills, I don't see how largesse and cleric stance can be missed.
    Like for all I care they had a minor impact at best even in ult or last savage.

    I can't recall being happy about having largesse up
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  4. #24
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    Fellgon's Avatar
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    Character
    Tempest Moon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    im enjoying summoner so far, its very fun and its have better rotation than Stormblood. the way im feeling he game its like it have minor changes, nothing that make impossible to play with job, to me, the game became better, and i give all reaason to yoshi wen he told to players play the game first, have the experience before any futher changes. All i have seen in forum its complain about something that some didnt gave a time to feel hows game now.

    The game is better!! I feel like many dont get out of confort zone, and try learn skills again. Its not impossible to adapt, and once you learn how it works you will have fun with it.
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  5. #25
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    Fellgon's Avatar
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    Tempest Moon
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    Behemoth
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sovasin View Post
    Let me put it this way - do you think SE should consolidate all combos for DPS and tanks into one button, just like in PVP? Instead of having multiple buttons that you press in the same order every time.
    if all kombos be in same button the game will feel like celphone game.
    (2)

  6. #26
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    MewoTM's Avatar
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    Mewo Tm
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 80
    While i admit it does play very similar the difference is quite noticeable for WHM mains. I loved HW WHM even if it sucked. I liked SB WHM even if it still sucked. TBH i was iffy about new WHM. My abilities taking longer to cast(likely a change to base stats) and i miss my usual rotation but at the same time it feels more like a healer now than a DPS that can heal the odd time it needs it since its HoTs kept up with a lot of the damage alone. While the loss of Largesse is sad its not needed and tbh if it still existed it would make their last skill nothing special in their kit. Repose was useful in SITUATIONS that honestly rarely happened/useless skill crowding the bars. Lucid dreaming needs to be spammed now cause of the new mana cap and how much costs are compared to it but thats just something else to manage which is fun since before managing mana on WHM wasnt really a thing cause of the amount of skills they had that helped with mana problems. After some play time and adjusting i think its fun and thank god for the lack of protect that spell was useless in the first place XD.
    To address your thing about "they keep taking skills away shouldn't they be adding more?" (Sorry if its already been brought up) but i feel like if anything its a good thing they are removing skills because we already have a ton more than needed as is so if they didn't downsize each patch we wouldn't have enough hotbars to fit all the Spells/Skills/Abilities.
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  7. #27
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    Bah Lizi
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valesken View Post
    Yoshida-san,

    Tonight, for the first time ever in a Final Fantasy online game, I had absolutely no fun—no fun at all—playing as a White Mage. I don’t understand what your plan was for healers in Shadowbringers, but I’m bitterly disappointed with all the changes that you’ve made for that role. I am now seriously considering cancelling my account (which has been active since version 1.0). I was already disappointed when you decided to remove Stoneskin and nerf Fluid Aura, but I think you completely lost me with the White Mage changes in Shadowbringers. Hopefully, you’ll make some adjustments soon, otherwise, good luck managing queues without healers...

    Thank you,
    Nelly Arcane, WHM main in FFXIV (Gilgamesh)
    Valesken, WHM main in FFXI (Quetzalcoatl)
    I felt exactly the same after years of playing this game since 2.0. Doing some dungeon with AST and I was feeling actual pain. I wanted to finish and log out.
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  8. #28
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    Katherine Mewgles
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valesken View Post
    Yoshida-san,

    Tonight, for the first time ever in a Final Fantasy online game, I had absolutely no fun—no fun at all—playing as a White Mage. I don’t understand what your plan was for healers in Shadowbringers, but I’m bitterly disappointed with all the changes that you’ve made for that role. I am now seriously considering cancelling my account (which has been active since version 1.0). I was already disappointed when you decided to remove Stoneskin and nerf Fluid Aura, but I think you completely lost me with the White Mage changes in Shadowbringers. Hopefully, you’ll make some adjustments soon, otherwise, good luck managing queues without healers...

    Thank you,
    Nelly Arcane, WHM main in FFXIV (Gilgamesh)
    Valesken, WHM main in FFXI (Quetzalcoatl)
    Do you think you'd feel the same way at level 80 once you've obtained all the new spells? I just skimmed them, but it looks like those might add gameplay that will make the class funner.
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  9. #29
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    Yomiko Nonaka
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    probably not.
    what will you gain ? a instant-medica usable every 30s, a instant aoe-dps that you can use once every 90 seconds and a largess with 10% damage reduction.

    we waited 2 years for that, and it costed us cleric stance, largesse, aero 3, eye for a eye and protec.
    (0)

  10. #30
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    LeonTrifang's Avatar
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    Florian Nozomu
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    “Good luck managing ques without healers”

    *Laughs in Trust System”

    In all seriousness, to each their own, but most people I’ve talked to are enjoying the new update. I am. Healing is healing. As long as they don’t take away my ability to heal, I’m happy.
    (1)
    “Courage is the magic that turns dreams into a reality”

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