DNC Suggestions

[Crushnight]

In re: Improv
It's based on how many people are within a certain distance of you. If people run away, your next tick will be lower.

So hate my teammates for not being in it gotcha :P

In re: Procs
That's what Flourish is, though.

I know that, i feel we need an additional one but it only gives a single proc(your choice) every 45s to help mitigate really bad rng, it would also give a slight dps boost without it being too encroaching on other Dps too much.

[HyoMinPark]

Fan dance 3 should override fan dance 1 + 2 when it procs. No need to make it have its own button and it would make those burst phases feel far more smooth.

The idea with FDIII and FDI/FDII is that you can double-weave them. So, ideally, you would hit Flourish > GCD > FDIII > FDII or FDI depending on AOE vs ST > GCD. Overwriting FDI/FDII removes the double-weaving potential, and I personally prefer being able to double-weave. Makes a job feel faster and less sluggish.

[Calypsx]

The idea with FDIII and FDI/FDII is that you can double-weave them. So, ideally, you would hit Flourish > GCD > FDIII > FDII or FDI depending on AOE vs ST > GCD. Overwriting FDI/FDII removes the double-weaving potential, and I personally prefer being able to double-weave. Makes a job feel faster and less sluggish.

I'm not proposing the removal of double weaving, just an immediate flip flop. I would hate for there to be a delay and I love how weaving two fan dances feel but it would be nice to be able to look away from my hotbars when I hit my ogcd attacks.

[Moxiesan]

They feel really weak when it comes to single target. It needs to be buffed slightly. Also, the RNG mechanic needs to be tweaked or changed... especially with Espirit. As of right now.. my single target and AoE attacks are only a 50 potency difference, which means at 2+ targets, you have to AoE or you're losing out on a lot of damage. This should be tweaked to 3+ targets... That would feel a lot better I think. I know that DNC buffs other party members, but there is such a thing as ending up doing content by yourself, which really hurts.

[Phaerius]

After some testing it seems like lalafells grunt way more often when doing any dancer action than my au'ra. So much so that it's pretty distracting. My lala will do this 'NYEEEH' grunt every other attack or dance step, where it seems like my au'ra does it once every 4-5. Any other lala's have similar experiences?

[Raikai]

Alright, after a bit of extensive play, some thoughts:

1) We are gated behind 2 layers of RNG to obtain our feathers. 1st layer being the combo proc, and the 2nd layer being actually obtaining a feather from those procs - this feels a bit too much. My suggestion is either a) Always generate feathers from the procs or b) Have a , but smaller, chance to generate feathers on non proc abilities. Flourish is good to generate feathers, but there's that awful chance of not getting a feather - at all - from the procs generated there and feels terrible, so suggestion c) is to have flourish always generate feathers from proc'd abilities

2) Saber Dance being on GCD feels slow for a resource spender type of ability. If nothing is done regarding the above item, then I'd suggest it being turned into a oGCD, even if it was necessary to slighty nerf the dmg or add a small recast timer to compensate.

These problem with these 2 items above is because DNC can either have a really smooth and dynamic gameplay, or a really slow and clunky gameplay, because our weaving-in oGCDs abilities are gated behind the mercy of RNG luck. So, in my opinion, would either making feather generation a bit more reliable, or making Saber Dance an oGCD.

3) Curing Waltz needs the range doubled, because the utilitiy of the spell is almost negated if you really can't catch a lot of people (sometimes including yourself) in the double heal. In my experience, the only moments you'll find the party intentionally REALLY stacked in that range, is to make sure everyone is receiving Cure 3 from WHMs... but then, in such occasion, Curing Waltz wouldn't be that useful, since Cure 3 is already very strong.

4) En avant range also feels way too tiny. I'm the only here that thinks like this?

5) It would be lovely if the developers could find a way for us to keep Closed Position with the chocobo partner. Also... No idea how to solve this, but the dps dummy trial, for dps check is useless for DNCs because we can't account for step damages.

[Kolsykol]

I am loving Dancer thus far.
My only real complaint is why no lvl 64 skill?
And also Curing Waltz is extremely underwhelming and kinda sucks.

[YanderePrincess]

And also Curing Waltz is extremely underwhelming and kinda sucks.

Curing Waltz is actually quite strong in a group scenario, and will be really nice for statics who can coordinate better. In PUGs, it's extremely useful right after a stack mechanic. 400 potency heal to everyone, and only a minute cd.

It's kinda lackluster for solo content, but I think that's okay since we have both Curing Waltz and Second Wind.

[Nexxus]

These problem with these 2 items above is because DNC can either have a really smooth and dynamic gameplay, or a really slow and clunky gameplay, because our weaving-in oGCDs abilities are gated behind the mercy of RNG luck. So, in my opinion, would either making feather generation a bit more reliable, or making Saber Dance an oGCD.

This ! it get to slow often.
An idea would be to get a skillspeed bonus on Fan Dance III.

3) Curing Waltz needs the range doubled, because the utilitiy of the spell is almost negated if you really can't catch a lot of people (sometimes including yourself) in the double heal. In my experience, the only moments you'll find the party intentionally REALLY stacked in that range, is to make sure everyone is receiving Cure 3 from WHMs... but then, in such occasion, Curing Waltz wouldn't be that useful, since Cure 3 is already very strong.

Standard and Technical Finish needs to have a longer ranged wide.

[HyoMinPark]

This ! it get to slow often.
An idea would be to get a skillspeed bonus on Fan Dance III.

I think having Saber Dance as an oGCD would help pacing a bit. It does feel sluggish when it will proc and I have to wait for my GCD to use it. Especially if I'm in a Devilment/burst window because I always want to get my Flourish procs off at that time as well. So it can make the window feel slow and clunky sometimes.

Standard and Technical Finish needs to have a longer ranged wide.

I personally think the range on these are fine. I'd rather our melee AOE ranges be increased a couple yalms. It's annoying in dungeons with large mobs to have the larger ones push the smaller ones out of your range to the point where you have to bury yourself in the pack to hit everything effectively.

I'm not proposing the removal of double weaving, just an immediate flip flop. I would hate for there to be a delay and I love how weaving two fan dances feel but it would be nice to be able to look away from my hotbars when I hit my ogcd attacks.

I don't personally see the need for them to be a single button. While I agree I'm staring at my hotbars a lot, I've mitigated it by condensing my HUD into a central location where I can see everything necessary with ease. But I also mained BRD last expansion and am used to watching my hotbars.