DNC Suggestions

[Makeda]

Remember that your DPS isn’t just you, isn’t just you and partner, it is also whatever you get from technical step uptime and some of your other buffs.

[KaiSunstrider]

Remember that your DPS isn’t just you, isn’t just you and partner, it is also whatever you get from technical step uptime and some of your other buffs.

This is true, but even when you take in consideration your dps, the dps contributed from partner, and extra dps contributed by raid, our total contribution is still vastly behind BRD and MCH. DNC's non personal raid contribution (partner and raid) is only about 1k dps in a high performing group. Adding that to 7300-8200 personal dps still puts you wayyy behind the other dps doing currently pulling 10k+.

[Blueyes]

This may not bother others as much, but I wish Flourish was available at an earlier level. Flourish serves as Dancer's burst phase while functioning as the only means to force procs. Prior to learning Flourish, you are reliant on random procs which can feel unsatisfying during unlucky streaks. I suggest swapping the level requirements for Flourish and Fan Dance III which would make Flourish available for level 70 content. Levels 66 and 72 would still be the time that new DPS-oriented actions are learned, but with the more impactful of the two acquired earlier. And in this order, the acquisition of Fan Dance III would also serve as an upgrade to Flourish with Flourishing Fan Dance made available.

[Burningskull]

I don't know anything about numbers.. but I really wish the AoE skills had more range. say 10y or 15y like the Step Flourishes.

[Connor]

Why do I get the feeling this is gonna end up like Bard with the job slowly losing more and more support capabilities in exchange for higher and higher DPS until it ends up looking like a totally different job than it started as

[Ferra_Anulum]

So far I really love the flow and the general feel of the job. I do agree with most here that at least the start of a step should be oGCD. But for me my bigest problem is with our main anywhere from 2 to 4 part combo... It just feels unbalanced and lopsided and thats not even taking fan procs into account. As they are in a vacuum fans are great being able to weave them in and out of your core just feels right. Its getting fans is the problem... so far the longest ive gone without a fan proc is just longer the a standard finish... thats 24 GCD! at level 72 with flourish your at least garented 1 fan 3 with a chance for a second.

Right now we have 4 moves with 4 different potency. Right now we have a 2 part "combo" at 450, theres a 750 pot 3 part "combo" OR 800 pot 3 part "combo" OR theres still a chance for a 1200 pot 4 part "combo"?! just right there our numbers are all over the place! now we can get a chance for 1 fan on 2 of these "combos" and has a chance for 2 on the 4th. this just throws the numbers all over the place even farther!

This is just RNG on RNG on RNG... and the buffs we give really dont make up for being shafted by RNG. cause right now looking at prelem numbers we're doing no better then an AST with the same kind of buffs.

[Raikai]

So far I really love the flow and the general feel of the job. I do agree with most here that at least the start of a step should be oGCD. But for me my bigest problem is with our main anywhere from 2 to 4 part combo... It just feels unbalanced and lopsided and thats not even taking fan procs into account. As they are in a vacuum fans are great being able to weave them in and out of your core just feels right. Its getting fans is the problem... so far the longest ive gone without a fan proc is just longer the a standard finish... thats 24 GCD! at level 72 with flourish your at least garented 1 fan 3 with a chance for a second.

Right now we have 4 moves with 4 different potency. Right now we have a 2 part "combo" at 450, theres a 750 pot 3 part "combo" OR 800 pot 3 part "combo" OR theres still a chance for a 1200 pot 4 part "combo"?! just right there our numbers are all over the place! now we can get a chance for 1 fan on 2 of these "combos" and has a chance for 2 on the 4th. this just throws the numbers all over the place even farther!

This is just RNG on RNG on RNG... and the buffs we give really dont make up for being shafted by RNG. cause right now looking at prelem numbers we're doing no better then an AST with the same kind of buffs.

And that is even worse when your Flourish forced procs won't give you any feathers at all, I've had that in many situations.

Currently the optimal way to play is to keep at 3x feathers until the burst window... But pondering that, I personally think that's not a very fun way to manage your feathers, because it essentially reduces the fourfold to "1 charge" (the fourth one, that you are "allowed" to spend in your rotation), basically negating the management aspect all all because there's no decision there. That reminds me a lot of SB's MCH usage of Flamethrower, interrupting the ability on purpose just to enter overheat and not using it for its damage.

In that light, I really wish Flourish would also cause a 100% chance to get feathers on its forced procs or something like that, so we wouldn't have to worry much about saving all our feathers through a fight.

[Crushnight]

With Espirit gain the fastest i have gained Espirit has been with Blm.

I have partnered with drg,mnk,sam,smn and brd for a few runs)3+ at least) checking my rate and blm just gave me so much, now could be complete rng luck but it has stood out and i got to 8.65k with them on Titania.

Now i've yet to be able to partner with nin,mch and rdm for more than 1 run so i want to do that before final verdict but it certainly feels like certain jobs give more than others.

[YanderePrincess]

With Espirit gain the fastest i have gained Espirit has been with Blm.

I have partnered with drg,mnk,sam,smn and brd for a few runs)3+ at least) checking my rate and blm just gave me so much, now could be complete rng luck but it has stood out and i got to 8.65k with them on Titania.

Now i've yet to be able to partner with nin,mch and rdm for more than 1 run so i want to do that before final verdict but it certainly feels like certain jobs give more than others.

I've only done dungeons so far, but my best result has been with a monk so far. I don't think I've been paired with a blm since getting access to Esprit.

[Burningskull]

I think if they made Fan Dance 1 upgrade into Fan Dance 3 they could make Saber Dance an oGCD to go in the Fan Dance 3 spot.