Please make this AST change!

[IveraIvalice]

This isn’t a discussion on how much you like or dislike the new ast.

Casting cards on party members is supposed to give you a celestial seal if it’s used “in combat”. I just ran through my first dungeon with the new ast and was wondering what I am doing wrong when half the time I wouldn’t get any celestial seal. Then by the end I realized that the party members I’m casting them on don’t count as being “in combat” because they haven’t attacked the monster yet.

Even though the party is in combat I still have to wait for that person to go hit the monster or finish casting their first spell. That is extremely annoying. I always have my first card loaded up ready to start the next fight and as the tank engages and our party is in combat then I cast the cards on team mates as they are running up. Now I have to wait on them to cast it while our tank is taking damage? Having to focus on what one person is doing just to cast a first card on them takes you out of the zone. Running through a dungeon with a lot of little fights this has been very noticeable to me.

Change this, it seems like an annoying oversight. If the party is in combat I should be able to cast the card on any party member and get a celestial seal.

[Siris]

Actually, I may be wrong, but I noticed that if I engage in combat (a simple combust does the trick), I can use the card on the player and receive the seal (even if said player hasn't finished casting their spell). However I do agree with you, it's quite frustrating not to receive a seal because the game doesn't think we're in battle.

[IveraIvalice]

I’m not even sure I know what’s happening anymore. In my next dungeon I was very conscious of when I casted the first card and I would use it on someone I see doing damage to the monster and I still wouldn’t get a celestial seal. A good like 5 seconds in the fight. Even being conscious of it and seeing the person attack before I use a card I still wouldn’t get a deal about half the time.

I just don’t even know anymore.

I’ll try using combust before I cast a card, hopefully it works but I still think they need to fix whatever is going on there

[althenawhm]

Yeah, its definitely because YOU are not in combat.

[Sylve]

Fun fact, You also don't get a Seal if you card someone who is in combat, But you aren't in Combat yourself. Combat starts after the card is applied, but the Seal check seems to occur before the Card lands.

Could be an oversight. I've taken to dropping an Aspected Benefic on the Tank and using the GCD to throw my first card. Hasn't failed me yet.

[loreleidiangelo]

I don't get ANY of the healer changes with regards to this, tbh. Was it absolutely bongos OP/broken that SCHs started fights with extra Aetherflow (doesn't even matter as much now with no Energy Drain) or ASTs had a proper card setup aligned? So frustrating to not even be able to experiment with new hotkeys and whatnot because I can't use a lot of my critical abilities outside of combat unless I find a training dummy.

[IveraIvalice]

Yeah, its definitely because YOU are not in combat.

That seems like the issue. Still it should be if the party is in combat then I am in combat, not when I have enmity from a monster

[althenawhm]

That seems like the issue. Still it should be if the party is in combat then I am in combat, not when I have enmity from a monster

Well, thats just how it is.
Same with aetherflow and lilies too.

[Sylve]

I don't get ANY of the healer changes with regards to this, tbh. Was it absolutely bongos OP/broken that SCHs started fights with extra Aetherflow (doesn't even matter as much now with no Energy Drain) or ASTs had a proper card setup aligned? So frustrating to not even be able to experiment with new hotkeys and whatnot because I can't use a lot of my critical abilities outside of combat unless I find a training dummy.

With a proper card setup in the new system I can punch out a 15 second duration, 14% damage buff for the whole party.

What was the best we could do in the old one? Oh yeah. 5%. With a whole lot of fishing around and hoping for a 1 in 6 chance of actually getting the right card.

[TaleraRistain]

Yeah this seems like an oversight. If they're going to have role mechanics that function based on combat status, then if your party is in combat, all members should be flagged as in combat.