Reasoning for removal of TP, but not MP?

[Millybonk]

Just from browsing through the classes: every class which relied on TP as their main resource is now your standard "Press the button when off CD without having to think further" whereas MP classes still need to calculate their resources.

Why the glaring difference?

[MistakeNot]

Basically, unless you spammed your AOE skills there were never any risk of running out of TP, so it was in essence a pointless resource.

[Millybonk]

Basically, unless you spammed your AOE skills there were never any risk of running out of TP, so it was in essence a pointless resource.

I do hope you got what you wrote there: now every TP class can spam AoE like there's no tomorrow, while MP classes can only to a certain threshold.

[Nedkel]

I do hope you got what you wrote there: now every TP class can spam AoE like there's no tomorrow, while MP classes can only to a certain threshold.

MP classes are powerful enough to let them have it.

[SamSmoot]

Basically, unless you spammed your AOE skills there were never any risk of running out of TP, so it was in essence a pointless resource.

I always wondered what TP was for, I don't think I've ever seen it drop on this character, even while AIE farming low level mobs. (Death Blossom works for this because you don't have to target them first, just run by and hit one key.)

[Shurrikhan]

Just from browsing through the classes: every class which relied on TP as their main resource is now your standard "Press the button when off CD without having to think further" whereas MP classes still need to calculate their resources.

Why the glaring difference?

Because they could save time that way but apparently didn't think they could get away with then removing MP in the same sweep, especially since it is still at least a tiny bit relevant to healers.

Basically, unless you spammed your AOE skills there were never any risk of running out of TP, so it was in essence a pointless resource.

It'd eventually run out without Invigorate. Like a caster DPS runs out without Lucid Dreaming, but without the stat that increases the need for either CD (SpS/SkS) being quite so hated as among non-BLM casters. They were effectively identical. Both could essentially strap their CDs to auto-clickers and forget resources exist.

All TP did was force a commitment in dungeon runs with full pulls. If not everyone AoEed or otherwise performed at least kind of competently, those who were AoEing would run out of TP before everything's dead, and then you'd probably wipe. Of course, the same can still be said about the interactions of competent DPS and tank CDs so it's not like that's been outright removed. It's just a bit less glaringly obvious.

[spf1200]

Tp never had to be manage in 90% of content. It was just a number that never really mattered. MP has always had to be managed and it is easy to run out of it if you don't pay attention.

[Seraphor]

TP classes never had to 'calculate' their TP, that's why.

TP was a non factor unless you were spamming AoE's, then it was a arbitrary "stop spamming AoEs" barrier.

Meanwhile MP classes had AoE rotations that didn't leave them neutered after 20s.

Why do you think 'The Spire' was such a useless AST card?

[Millybonk]

TP classes never had to 'calculate' their TP, that's why.

TP was a non factor unless you were spamming AoE's, then it was a arbitrary "stop spamming AoEs" barrier.

I do agree, but with that reasoning there's no reason to not also remove MP, as it too is a "stop spamming AoE" barrier in parts.

[Seraphor]

No, MP management has far more use beyond "stop spamming AoE"
In fact most mages have their own, sustainable AoE rotations anyway. That arbitrary barrier just doesn't exist for mages like it did for physical.

A RDM will never run out of MP unless they cast Verraise.
A BLM will never run out of MP, period, but it dictates their Ice/Fire rotation.