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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    No I would not simply because I dont believe that the human race has a right to live over those.
    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    Taking that question by itself, the answer would be a definite and immediate "no, I would not".
    I would admire that choice. Though, I couldn't blame those who may disagree, nor would I consider them to be evil people - simply a differing viewpoint built upon our own mechanism of survival.

    We kill many animals for meat, despite evidence suggesting varying levels of sentience and our ability to survive on a meat-free diet. True, many of such animals are well-treated beforehand, but it's still a premature death of sentient beings nonetheless.
    We indirectly lead to a range of animal deaths through other actions, including habitat destruction, pollution etc.


    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    Emet-Selch doesn't do that. He treats the genocide as a matter of course, and he rushes straight into wiping out every life on the shards ... He holds no regrets and no compunctions, and he gleefully mocks us for it, which is even far beyond the mere apathy that most people have when, say, they eat meat or take antibiotics. Emet-Selch doesn't see killing mortals as murder, but he also doesn't see it as unfortunate either.
    Whilst we have an general idea of how events unfolded, we don't yet know the exact time-frame this occurred within. From what we know right now, it would be an assumption to say they rushed straight into it. We've no information on exactly how much time passed between the sundering and the beginning of the Ascian's work. There may have been very little time. Or maybe they waited, perhaps to better understand what actually happened. Maybe spent time amongst the sundered to better learn to what extent it had affected them.


    I can see your point here. He doesn't appear to view the deaths caused by rejoinings as unfortunate. Not only this, he's also highly disrespectful towards the inhabitants of the Source and Shards, being very arrogant and condescending towards them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Also again there is difference between the "circle of life" and outright pure genocide. And I mean if we argue that then go a bit further. There are quite a few horrible people in our history that saw certain races as lower beings. We could go round and round with this and someone will probably always find a way to justify their reasons.
    The Ascian's appear to have little to no respect for the sundered beings. But are they looking to cause rejoinings for no other reason than to kill all sundered beings (Genocide)? Or is their motivation the restoration of lives ended by Hydaelyn during the Sundering, with the loss of sundered life being a consequence of that?
    It's unforgivable either way (which is why I also question the WoLs choice to change events in ShB to avoid an unfavourable future) but motive can matter.

    I don't mean to justify them. On the contrary, as I said in my previous post, I very much disagree with their chosen course of action. It's wrong and the Scions couldn't have let them continue. But I also found myself sympathising with the Ascian's situation and I don't think the WoL have much of a moral high ground.
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    Last edited by Scintilla; 10-11-2019 at 11:41 PM.