whm weaving

[EaMett]

Most OGCDs, with the exception of maybe mudras (since the adjustment) have an animation cast time of 1 second, if not longer.

I can see part of your arguement in that by clipping your DOT, you are overwriting what was always supposed to be there, so thats why you arent including the DOT ticks in the old DOT and calling it a flat 120, but this isn't right either.


A full "cycle" of Dia with glare would bring a pps of:

1 x Dia 11 Glares
720 + 3300 = 4,020. This makes the PPS of the GCDS 134. 14 up from pure Glare Spam. 35 potency per 2.5 sec GCD. So each DOT we clip and prevent would net us a loss from a Max point of view.

The formula I could think of is as follows

[DOT Total potency at clip - Filler Spell Potency] - [seconds clipped x (Full cycle PPS = Filler Spam PPS)]

An Example would then be:

9 seconds in Reapply Dia.

[(120 + 180) - 300] - [21 x 14]

0 - 294 = -294

Wed then take that and compare it to the DPS lost from clipping the GCD which would be the PPS of the filler spell or 120.

In this case -120 > -294 so it would be better to clip the GCD rather than to weave. We can then continue this pattern.

Clipping at 12 seconds.

[(120 + 240) - 300] - [18 x 14]

60 - 252 = -192

-120 > -192.

Continue again.

[(120 + 300) - 300] - [15 x 14]

120 - 210 = -90

-120 < -90

In this case clipping your DOT and weaving at 15 seconds is going to be a net gain over clipping your GCD for sure.

Thank you for helping me to re-evaluate it from the simpler way I was doing it before. I think in many cases, my original method would work out, just from how much DOT is left on the boss by the time it died, but this way would be much more accurate. But I do stand by that WHM still does have Dia as a weave option as a better mitigation loss to DPS than just clipping the GCD.

Woo I love this type of discussion

It's a little late for me and I need to be able to focus on your reply so I'll give it more thought tomorrow. But one thing jumped out at me:

Wed then take that and compare it to the DPS lost from clipping the GCD which would be the PPS of the filler spell or 120.

Assuming a 1s ogcd. That means that the PPS of 300pot for 2.5s is 300/2.5 = 120. Now the PPS for the same 300 skill with a 1s clip would be 300/3.5 ~= 86. So the PPS of the filler is the difference between the two ~= -34.
It's a bit confusing but basically it's a loss of 120 potency over the course of 3.5 seconds (120/3.5 ~= 34) and not 120 in a vacuum over 1s (the confusion comes from the fact you calculate 120 as being 1s of glare so you look at it as being the PPS of your 1s clip of glare.. It's a bit of a mindf**k).