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    Some numbers about WHM and SCH in SHB

    Definitions:

    long term single target/AOE HPS: the maximum amount of healing potency per second for a single target/a group of targets, under the condition that only spammable actions are used (e.g. Assize, Whispering Dawn, Afflatus Solace and Lustrate cannot be used)

    short term single target/AOE HPS: the maximum amount of healing potency per second for a single target/a group of targets, over a duration of at least 10 seconds, under the condition that actions of instant healing/shielding cannot be used (e.g.Afflatus Solace, Lustrate, Assize, and Indomitability cannot be used)

    burst single target/AOE potency: the total maximum amount of healing potency for a single target/a group of targets, under the condition that only actions of instant healing/shielding or buffs can be used, and over the duration in which the actions are used non stop


    Note: All of the buffs that increase healing magic potency by a percentage, including Asylum, Temperance, Fey Illumination, and Dissipation are not counted, unless otherwise noted, because the effects of these buffs are very similar; shield potency is also counted as healing potency; the occasional Catalyze effect of Adloquium is not counted for HPS; pet actions' potency is multiplied by a factor of 2/3 (the description in Maim and Mend regarding the pet already exists before SHB and the pets still have such a scaling); the recast time of GCD actions and ticking CD of dots are assumed to be 2.5s and 3s; and, all of the buffs and regen effects are assumed to be cast before the duration starts, if possible

    Why I count shields as healing for HPS: 1. HPS is measured when the healing is non stop. When you are healing non stop, it is usually because there is a persistent wave of damage, which can negate the shield quickly; and, when do not need to heal no stop, I guess the potency does not really matter much 2. In special case, Emergency Tactics can be used, considering that Adloquium only has a 2 second cast time and Emergency Tactics only has a 15 second recast time now 3. Even if shields cannot be regarded as healing, my final conclusion remains the same.

    To give a sense what healing/shielding potency actually means, 1800 potency is about the full maximum HP of a healer

    long term single target HPS:

    WHM: Cure II (700/2.5s) + Regen (200/3s) + Regen from Medica II (100/3s) = 380/s (In reality, it is lower because it takes time to cast Regen and Medica II. But it is at least above 700/2.5s=280/s)

    SCH: Adloquium (675/2.5s) + Embrace (100/3s)= 296/s

    long term AOE HPS:

    WHM: Cure III (550/2.5s) + Regen from Medica II (100/3s) = 253.2/s

    SCH: Succor (405/2.5s) = 162/s

    short term single target HPS:

    WHM: Cure II (700/2.5s) + Regen (200/3s) + Regen from Medica II (100/3s) + Regen from Asylum (100/3s)= 413/s

    SCH: Adloquium (675/2.5s) + Fey Union or Seraphic Veil (267/3s) + Regen from Whispering Dawn (80/3s) + Regen from Sacred Soil (100/3s) = 419/s

    (for short term single target HPS, SCH might seem to have an upper hand because SCH does not need to waste two GCDs on Regen and Medica II. But when Presence of Mind is also considered, the two are about the same)

    To be continued...
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    short term AOE HPS:

    WHM: Cure III (550/2.5s) + Buff for Cure III from Plenary Indulgence (200/2.5s) + Regen from Medica II (100/3s) + Regen from Asylum (100/3s) = 366.4/s
    (The number is actually higher due to Presence of Mind)

    SCH: Succor (405/2.5s) + Regen from Whispering Dawn (80/3s)+ Regen frorm Sacred Soil (100/3s)= 222/s

    burst single target potency:

    WHM: Afflatus Solace + Assize + Tetragrammaton + Divine Benison + Benediction + Afflatus Solace = 100% HP and 3000 over 6 uses of actions of instant cast time
    (100% HP is about 1800 for DPS and healer roles, 2700 for PLD and DRK, and more for WAR, and only two Lily actions are used because there are not enough instant healing actions to fill between the 2nd and 3rd Lily action)

    SCH: Excogitation + Buff for Excogitation from Recitation + 3 Lustrate + Aetherflow + 3 Lustrate + Dissipation + 3 Lustrate = 6600 over 11 uses of actions of instant cast time

    burst AOE potency:

    WHM: Assize + Afflatus Rapture + Buff for Afflatus Rapture from Plenary Indulgence =900 over two uses of actions of instant cast time

    SCH: Indomitability + Buff for Indomitability from Recitation + Fey Blessing + Summon Seraph + 2 Consolation = 1633 over 4 uses of actions of instant cast time
    ( Buff for Indomitability from Recitation is assumed to be 200)

    In addition:

    Maximum amount of shield for single target (buffs like Dissipation and Fey Illumination are also considered)

    WHM: Divine Benison = 500

    SCH: Adloquium + Buff for Adloquium from Recitation + Buff for Adloquium from Dissipation + Buff for Adloquium from Fey Illumination + Seraphic Veil + Consolation = 1796
    (SCH also has a 10% damage shield from Sacred Soil)

    Maximum amount of shield for a group of targets (buffs like Dissipation and Fey Illumination are also considered)

    WHM: N/A

    SCH: Adloquium under Deployment Tactics+ Buff for Adloquium from Recitation + Buff for Adloquium from Dissipation + Buff for Adloquium from Fey Illumination + Consolation = 931
    (SCH also has a 10% damage shield from Sacred Soil)

    In conclusion: based on the numbers, WHM is better at long term single target healing, long term AOE healing, and short term AOE healing; while SCH is better at burst AOE healing, single target shielding and AOE shielding. In terms of short term single target healing and burst single target healing, the two are about the same

    Please help to correct me if any of the details is wrong, thanks!
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    Last edited by Herrscher; 06-28-2019 at 10:34 AM.