You've done it again with SMN.

[Angry_Evil]

Am i missing something or are you guys not calculating your times correctly? I only see 2 points of downtime, one between Dreadwyrm and Firebird Trance, of 25 seconds, and the second downtime is after Firebird Trance, of 40 seconds.

That's not so bad, considering you are SUMMONING an incredibly powerful being, so it should feel like it. If you had constant command of both then they might as well just be pets, and that's not what summoned creatures are in FF games.

OP is obviously overreacting but yeah you are missing something - context of 4.0 launch and a mess that summoner was back then. It was pretty rough for a while and people don't want a repeat of that. ALSO what are you talking about? powerful being? I mean I guess some people probably care about RP aspect of SMN but it's not the concern here at all... Tho tbh if MUH BEING was SE reason for downtime it'd be pretty hilarious

[ColdGuy]

OP is obviously overreacting but yeah you are missing something - context of 4.0 launch and a mess that summoner was back then. It was pretty rough for a while and people don't want a repeat of that. ALSO what are you talking about? powerful being? I mean I guess some people probably care about RP aspect of SMN but it's not the concern here at all... Tho tbh if MUH BEING was SE reason for downtime it'd be pretty hilarious

You what mate? Have you ever played an RPG? Role-playing game? If they didn't care about the thematic, they might a well just make it a bunch of numbered buttons and leave it at that. I think you're missing the entire point of RPGs.

Longer down-times are a side effect of high-damage windows, you can't have high-damage all the time with no maintenance, they want to make the summons feel powerful but there has to be a downside to it, it's called balance. I certainly see their reasoning, but yours is only wanting to change a class into something that suits your person rather than the thematic.

[Angry_Evil]

You what mate? Have you ever played an RPG? Role-playing game? If they didn't care about the thematic, they might a well just make it a bunch of numbered buttons and leave it at that. I think you're missing the entire point of RPGs.

It's like people forgot about 4.0. Really?

Longer down-times are a side effect of high-damage windows, you can't have high-damage all the time with no maintenance, they want to make the summons feel powerful but there has to be a downside to it, it's called balance.

There are much more concerns than just downtime. I dunno why you're so fixated on that. But even then "downtime" would be fine but doing mostly nothing but pressing R3 for 40 seconds is kinda meh. People were complaining about ruin spam literally for years.

I certainly see their reasoning, but yours is only wanting to change a class into something that suits your person rather than the thematic.

I think you need to chill. I literally didn't even propose any changes LOL I'm just cautiously concerned