New PVP Changes

[VaughnWarren]

Anyone else excited for the new changes to pvp? Though vague in some descriptions I am hopeful because the creators do seem to listen.

Some of the "new" pvp actions are old ones that are making a comeback. Does anyone know what the old versions did? I'm a die hard PVP player (that often ques solo out of my pre-made) so I look forward to the changes. Thoughts?

[Nedkel]

I love changes so far
All tanks got some extra stuff to do.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

*Full Swing* - yoooo, good stuff. Overall the skillsets got reworked a bit and there is a lot more access to vulnerabilities and damage tools. Might get fun.

[Eloah]

The PvP changes are the only ones I feel make sense. And they made use of some old role skills too. Nice to see Drain isnt completely gone.

[Gula]

So either I'm crazy or Bolt is actually gone from most jobs.

[Eloah]

So either I'm crazy or Bolt is actually gone from most jobs.

I think Bolt is a melee exclusive skill now.

[Guesswhat]

Fire and Earth tackle for monk seems like they're bugd. Only wind tackle activates when you have fists of wind. During fist of earth or fire then NO tackle for you!

And SMH... They completely remade the PvP skills again. I'm pretty sure we can expect the same next expansion.

[UnrealTai]

Honestly with nin being the old pvp king in dps, Im both excited, and disgusted by the change.

Mug and throwing daggers removal are massive dps hits imo, the shadow addition is cool but i have doubts it can make up for removing those 2 things. Mug between rotations just = new shadows damage, but now its just minus the throwing daggers when someone tries to run from you. And that REALLY sucks. Those daggers are what separated nin from other melees with escapees

Throwing daggers secured at least 40% of my kills when lil girls would try to escape my wrath if raiton wasnt ready. Suka jump sure but its not nearly as fast nor always ready enough.
Increase in Melee range from 3 to 5 is pretty huge though, so maybe just maybe it wont matter cause of that.

I do like the addition of the 50% lifesteal though, should help healers out a bit, and yourself. Will be a tough choice between that and the 10% dmg increase depending on whos healing the party

The removal of bolt from healers imo is a huge mistake. Ranged has more leyway cause healers get hard targetted. That was a key skill to use when facing premade vs premade that knew what to do, makes me wanna not consider using healer in pvp almost honestly. Safe guard bolt protect and kite 5 melees is not going to be a thing now. And thats a huge issue in premade battles, or really any battle vs ppl with a brain.

Also, hi Vaughn, BB is on! Do not like the camp lead!

[Mutemutt]

Fire and Earth tackle for monk seems like they're bugd. Only wind tackle activates when you have fists of wind. During fist of earth or fire then NO tackle for you!

I actually ran into this problem, you have to replace the old tackle on your bar with the new one in the pvp menu now.

[Drayce1]

The changes are bad. Was enough to make a friend of mines whos a diamond wolf rage quit.