Thread: 5.0 Crafting Changes

Originally Posted by Vasanta_Lockheart

Nothing stops you from doing touches at 11 stacks since it will do massive quality.

I think that the cap means you will stop seeing a gain in Quality added from touches at IQ11. Later on, when gear gets good enough, you won’t see a gain in Quality added from touches at IQ10. IF you have more than 1500 base Control, Innovation will be useless at IQ11. I would have to do the math to know if/when IQ10 would hit that 3k mark. A table of when each IQ hits that 3k mark would be interesting.

Originally Posted by Goudaba

Seems like we have new puzzles to resolved now that we cannot just pump the biggest numbers as possible.
We'll need to see the effects of the new skills to evaluate this though.

Yup - I am expecting to lose a LOT of mats until I get new rotations figured out. Still not sure exactly how some of the changes will affect rotations, except 100% sure that none of my old macros will work.

Speaking of HQ mats - I am betting that even low tier HQ mats will skyrocket in price for a while.

Have heard that the new VIII materia will not fit into pre-ShB gear, but probably a moot point since I expect them to be extremely rare and super expensive.

Originally Posted by Windsun33

Have heard that the new VIII materia will not fit into pre-ShB gear, but probably a moot point since I expect them to be extremely rare and super expensive.

I doubt they will be that rare, a couple roulette adventurer in need bonus is 1 Cracked Stellacluster & 2 Cracked Planiclusters, and I'm sure the ShaBri A/S rank hunts will drop them like candy as well. And with the removal of attribute materia, Mutamix odds on DoH/DoL go through the roof.

Originally Posted by StouterTaru

I doubt they will be that rare, a couple roulette adventurer in need bonus is 1 Cracked Stellacluster & 2 Cracked Planiclusters, and I'm sure the ShaBri A/S rank hunts will drop them like candy as well. And with the removal of attribute materia, Mutamix odds on DoH/DoL go through the roof.

But that could also be accompanied by a reduced success rate for advanced melding on the level VII and VIII materia compared to what we've seen for VI in Stormblood.

I wouldn't get too excited yet until we see what happens.

Originally Posted by Jojoya

But that could also be accompanied by a reduced success rate for advanced melding on the level VII and VIII materia compared to what we've seen for VI in Stormblood.

I wouldn't get too excited yet until we see what happens.

From the patch notes:

Attempts to affix grade VIII materia will always result in failure when it is used as the second or later materia in advanced materia melding.

The success rate for the advanced melding of grade I, II, III, and IV materia has been increased.

V and VI appear to have same success rate as before, VII will likely be worse that VI, and VIII is 0%

Interesting.

I'm going to take a "wait and see" attitude for rotations. There are far too many variables, including the new skills and quality/progress requirements to guess what rotations we'll use.

The PBP change is interesting. 1000 is quite small, I can see Observe/Focused overtaking it easily. I've mentioned before that the existence of PBP devalues Craftmanship considerably, I only just meld enough to scrape the 4 star requirement for my rotations and could do them with far, far less if I was allowed.
The Adjusted Control cap is interesting too. I can see it being tedious at endgame melding if we get very specific builds, like X amount of Control caps exactly at X amount of IQ stacks. Also Brygot's Miracle could become very strong, letting you build to 11 then Miracle+Blessing.

We'll see, looking forward to working it out.

Two new grades of materia...
Combat materia already goes up to 40 which is a massive increase from HW materia that only went up to 12.
Of course grade 7 and 8 materia applies to crafting too.

Just thinking about how much these are going to give over SB materia, this is getting kind of absurd.

Maybe grade 7 will be easy to acquire and meant more for casual players and crafters while grade 8 requires jumping through some extreme hoops?

That is my guess. VII will become the new VI, VIII will require you to solo 9 epic dungeons blindfolded.