unlimited frame rate option has been removed from the client on 5.0

[EchuKayu]

I'm not playing phone tag with you. New posts are a thing.

You can sit there and pick apart units of measurement or whatever, but that doesn't make me any less correct: Just like with DPS, people like big numbers. This is not an incorrect statement. You are not arguing with me because I am not arguing with you. There is nothing to argue. Pick someone else.

Right. Because there's no logical reason for someone to want to play a DPS, or have higher FPS, for any other reason than "They like big numbers." That's a very intelligent thing to say.

Maybe if I played with a DS4 controller on Legacy camera and have next to no camera movement, I'd say that you can't notice. All you really have to do is do mouse movement with 60, then do mouse movement with 120, and see the difference. If you can't notice that, then well, you're either blind or you're simply sitting on a 60hz monitor and you think more frames on that makes it anything but 60.

[Listrella]

I only run at 60fps and the game runs fine, I don't see the issue.

[asheryon]

I only run at 60fps and the game runs fine, I don't see the issue.

ummm, no one said it runs bad...but the difference beetween 144 and 60 is abysmal. (probably you never seen 120+, but if you did you would understand).

[NanaWiloh]

ummm, no one said it runs bad...but the difference beetween 144 and 60 is abysmal. (probably you never seen 120+, but if you did you would understand).

I understand the difference but dont care cause I dont play all my games at a high frame rate.

[Alundarus]

This change has me pretty worried.... Not just the fact that uncapped framerate, which a large number of users use, will no longer be available, but the fact that the in-game limiter has historically been problematic for a very long time now is what concerns me the most.

For me, the in-game fps limiter causes unstable framerate AND frametimes (stuttering) which I've read is a common issue. Thus, setting FPS to unlimited is the only option which actually allows the game to run smoothly.

If square manages to fix the in-game limiter to be functional for people running on monitors higher than 60hz, then that's not so bad. Otherwise the game could very well end up being unplayable for users like myself....which sucks, alot. I really want to be able to enjoy the new expansion.

And to the few who are criticizing those of us who are concerned about this change with statements along the lines of "It doesn't affect me personally, so everyone else should stop making a big deal about it". Please don't do this. It's not cool to downplay the misfortune of others, no matter how trivial it may seem to you. For me personally, it's a matter of the game being playable or not. I don't care about having massive FPS for no reason - I care about having a stable, smooth frame-rate which this change could potentially threaten.

[jadan2000]

i seem to only get 90fps in borderless windows mode. If i switch to fullscreen mode, i get capped at 60fps

[DuskTS]

Well the human eye can't really see above 24fps and the average FFXIV player can't parse above 24dps.

[MrKusakabe]

Let's see what is going on since I've invested in a G-Sync monitor just 2 weeks ago. Running at 90-105 fps with my Ryzen 7 1700X and a GTX1080 @ 2560x1440p right now...

[Callinon]

I can tell the difference between 60 and 120. But the fact is 90 is perfectly fine and furthermore it won't be any kind of "stutter fest" on high refresh monitors. Your eyes will only really care about a CHANGE in FPS. If the client can hold consistently at 90, you won't even see it.

[Xerkrosis]

I can tell the difference between 60 and 120. But the fact is 90 is perfectly fine and furthermore it won't be any kind of "stutter fest" on high refresh monitors. Your eyes will only really care about a CHANGE in FPS. If the client can hold consistently at 90, you won't even see it.

There is a difference, even if you're not changing your fps-limit. Personally I've limited FFXIV to 60fps (with RTSS), so the physics don't break (hair, clothes, boobs if anyone cares).
If the physics wouldn't break, I'd go right back to 144fps for two reasons:

1. I can finally recognize something, when I'm turning my camera! With 60fps it's a blurry mess. With 144fps you can see everything quite clear.
2. FFXIV has a hidden V-sync or something similar. When the game can't hold 60fps, it dips down to 40fps.
I see this mostly happen in Limsa. But if I have it locked to 144fps, my fps dips down to around 90-100fps. It's quite strange, that my PC handles easily 90fps, but once the 60fps-cap is on it's much worse!

btt: There's a clear difference between consistent 60fps, constitent 90fps, and consistent 144fps.

[...] too high fps actually bothers me sometimes.

How is this possible? RL basically has >5*10^44 "fps" with only our eyes (changes with >200fps still noticeable) being the limit. How is it for you, when you see cars passing or when you're turning around? ôo