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  1. #131
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    It was probably done just to address the physics glitches unlimited frame rates could introduce, because the bots are just straight up telling the servers where they want to be via packet injection hacks, not exploiting the physics engine.

    The most noticeable effect of it is that making the jumps for some of the ARR sightseeing vistas is noticeably more difficult as you get slightly less air time when jumping depending on how high your FPS. It also messes with the jiggle physics, reducing them if not disabling them entirely depending on the object in question.
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    Last edited by KageTokage; 06-27-2019 at 09:41 PM.

  2. #132
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    MrKusakabe's Avatar
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    Zedek Kusakabe
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    Zodiark
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    Here are some people saying you can't see the difference in 60+ Hz. I was the same before I invested in a monitor.
    I wanted primarily G-Sync and these monitors usually are 144Hz and more. My cousin is always like 5 years ahead of me and was encouraging me to get one.
    As I plugged it in, it took me 1 second to see the difference: The mouse cursor in Windows moves so smooth! That was the best demonstration of what 144Hz are.

    Right now, my GTX1080 gets 80-105 fps on 2560x1440. So the 90fps seem to be right in the golden middle. I wonder if it interfers with G-Sync (as I still have no clue how it really works. I just see every game runs smoother even when the framerate swings 20 frames up and down)..
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  3. #133
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    KrystalRaina's Avatar
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    Was watching Yoshi read out the patch notes on twitch and I asked what they said about the hard cap. Supposedly they're afraid of breaking people's PC's? Can't confirm as I don't speak Japanese but that's what others told me. If that's true, that is a weak excuse. At this point I'm just hoping it's a true frame cap and not the same limiter as 1/1, 1/2 etc
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  4. #134
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    Xerkrosis's Avatar
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    Lyaeria Rikason
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KrystalRaina View Post
    Was watching Yoshi read out the patch notes on twitch and I asked what they said about the hard cap. Supposedly they're afraid of breaking people's PC's? Can't confirm as I don't speak Japanese but that's what others told me. If that's true, that is a weak excuse. At this point I'm just hoping it's a true frame cap and not the same limiter as 1/1, 1/2 etc
    "Breaking people's PC" lol. So PCs from CSGO or World of Warcraft-players must explode then?
    PCs aren't from 90s anymore. There are plenty of fail safes. Especially when it comes to temperature, or electrical voltage/current.
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  5. #135
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unaki View Post
    This is not a solution for bots in the slightest. It has absolutely nothing to do with bots. The bots you see teleporting around are not using uncapped FPS and are instead using a map hack to get around and jump to wherever they need to go.
    Look out now we got us an expert on botting in XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  6. #136
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    EchuKayu's Avatar
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    Kuro Starwind
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    Yoshida "We went too far on this aspect and it made some parts of the game broken, and we got claims/complaints from some of the players so we have to lower the FPS cap."

    I don't really think that, in 2019, you should be punishing your playerbase because you can't control your botting problem.
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  7. #137
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    DumdogsWorld's Avatar
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    W'kohrahx Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Look out now we got us an expert on botting in XIV.
    Well, I mean....it's obvious.

    High FPS on engines that are not designed for it can, and will, result in physics glitches.....but after seeing some of these bots in action, there is no way they are exploiting physics glitches of that nature.

    In most physics engines, phasing through solid geometry is not smooth even if you can pull it off via a glitch. These bots are flying around like as if nothing is solid.
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    Well, I mean....it's obvious.

    High FPS on engines that are not designed for it can, and will, result in physics glitches.....but after seeing some of these bots in action, there is no way they are exploiting physics glitches of that nature.

    In most physics engines, phasing through solid geometry is not smooth even if you can pull it off via a glitch. These bots are flying around like as if nothing is solid.
    And those who jump and hang around under Limsa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    And those who jump and hang around under Limsa?
    What about them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Translation "I don't value this, so it's preposterous that people should be upset."

    I will be incensed if it is a 90 FPS hard cap for everyone.
    I get what he's saying... To use a more open example.

    Rich person. " NOOO I lost 5k this morning while swimming in my money pool of 100,000,000,000,000. I'm super pissed.
    Poor person. " Seriously? Why should I feel sorry for you? "

    Yes being hard capped at 90FPS would be a bad more for SE to do.. but you can't expect people who've never been that high to care. If you've only been capped at 60 or worst yet.. 30 complaining to them being capped at a rate higher then theirs is pointless.
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