Any doubt that the game lacks enough challenge?

[KiraAmane]

people hit a lot of good points that i'm probably going to relist:

1. we're only level 50
2. all job quests weren't designed for full parties of level 50's
3. can't make it too hard or people won't play
4. the quests add a good sense of cooperation and community
5. everyone [people not so hardcore] now can be geared for almost free!
6. gets us back into the old content and works at keeping everything fresh
7. there IS a good amount of difficulty with the job quests imo and even if i smash through it's still fun and rewarding
8. the dungeons are really well built and challenging in themselves although with the right communication and allocation of resources become totally doable
9. the dialogue within many of the new quests is pretty awesome. i've found myself laughing a lot and yep, i read 'em all

unfortunately there are some bad notes :

1. most double melded, crafted gear is overshadowed by the new AF unless it can replace pieces of AF without Job enhancements
2. AF looks so bamf that we don't want to take it off!

1. Catering to a new population while losing your current player base is not a smart way to do business.
2. I did all of my jobs with 5 people. We literally Moogled everything i.e. Kite, bind and kill. The difficulty on the rank 50 quests was a joke. Anyone who struggled needs to learn how to kite. Apparently SE doesn't know how to neutralize this strat.
3. Understandable. But at least cater to the best player pool. So many people say games need to be open to noobs. But the good gamer community is being marginalized constantly.
4. I suppose so. This is very true. But if you have a few friends in the game, its not necessary to branch out.
5. Lol this is what made WoW terrible. Rewarding noobs is only fueling this terrible trend in MMOs.
6. Lol, killing content we've already killed is so dumb. 99% of the players have done all of the NMs etc. They couldn't think of anything new? Hell, most of the quests were bugged to the max too.
7. There is ZERO difficulty in job quests. Unless you count anima/chocobo time.
8. Sure, the portal system in Cutter's was interesting for the first like 4 hours. But once you get it down, its done. Ant queen was like w/e. Getting Chimera low HP on your first try made me not even want to go back in.
9. I didn't watch the CS, I will go back and do so. But honestly, content is what I needed, and it is not what I got. I would've much rather leveling up all my jobs again. ><
10. The gear looks is the ONE thing I loved about the patch. But everyone has it lulz. Good game.

[Noir]

1. Catering to a new population while losing your current player base is not a smart way to do business.
2. I did all of my jobs with 5 people. We literally Moogled everything i.e. Kite, bind and kill. The difficulty on the rank 50 quests was a joke. Anyone who struggled needs to learn how to kite. Apparently SE doesn't know how to neutralize this strat.
3. Understandable. But at least cater to the best player pool. So many people say games need to be open to noobs. But the good gamer community is being marginalized constantly.
4. I suppose so. This is very true. But if you have a few friends in the game, its not necessary to branch out.
5. Lol this is what made WoW terrible. Rewarding noobs is only fueling this terrible trend in MMOs.
6. Lol, killing content we've already killed is so dumb. 99% of the players have done all of the NMs etc. They couldn't think of anything new? Hell, most of the quests were bugged to the max too.
7. There is ZERO difficulty in job quests. Unless you count anima/chocobo time.
8. Sure, the portal system in Cutter's was interesting for the first like 4 hours. But once you get it down, its done. Ant queen was like w/e. Getting Chimera low HP on your first try made me not even want to go back in.
9. I didn't watch the CS, I will go back and do so. But honestly, content is what I needed, and it is not what I got. I would've much rather leveling up all my jobs again. ><
10. The gear looks is the ONE thing I loved about the patch. But everyone has it lulz. Good game.

It's a game my friend, lots of people will have the same things.

[ejiboo]

1 - 10: Pessimism

you're failing to see the progress SE and this game are making.