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    Im myself wondering why the ability to display how the HP settings are displayed for your pets and other players is being removed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krokov View Post
    Im myself wondering why the ability to display how the HP settings are displayed for your pets and other players is being removed
    Pets no longer have health; they're not entities in the world anymore. They are basically a buff that changes how your abilities work, now. Visually they're the same, but they no longer can be interacted with / clicked on / targetted.

    As for other players, I have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolflordval View Post
    Pets no longer have health; they're not entities in the world anymore. They are basically a buff that changes how your abilities work, now. Visually they're the same, but they no longer can be interacted with / clicked on / targetted.
    This is incorrect. Pets may no longer have health, but that doesn't change their status as entities. You can still move them, all their abilities are still used by them (and not by the summoner) and they can still act independently from the Summoner (i.e. they can attack one enemy while the Summoner is attacking another.)
    I also remember someone from the Media Tour saying you can still click on/interact with your egi, similar to how you'd interact with Minions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneCarbuncle View Post
    This is incorrect. Pets may no longer have health, but that doesn't change their status as entities. You can still move them, all their abilities are still used by them (and not by the summoner) and they can still act independently from the Summoner (i.e. they can attack one enemy while the Summoner is attacking another.)
    I also remember someone from the Media Tour saying you can still click on/interact with your egi, similar to how you'd interact with Minions.
    No, they don't. From the patch notes:
    "Pet actions have been removed.
    Actions that previously qualified as pet actions have been incorporated into player actions
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    * Actions executed by pets have been moved to the Pet category of the Actions tab.
    * Certain actions cannot be executed manually.
    Pets can no longer be targeted by player or enemy actions.
    * Attacks performed by a pet will generate enmity for the player who summoned it.
    Pets will no longer be displayed in the party list.
    Pet HP will no longer be displayed when targeted."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolflordval View Post
    No, they don't. From the patch notes:
    "Pet actions have been removed.
    Actions that previously qualified as pet actions have been incorporated into player actions
    .
    * Actions executed by pets have been moved to the Pet category of the Actions tab.
    * Certain actions cannot be executed manually.
    Pets can no longer be targeted by player or enemy actions.
    * Attacks performed by a pet will generate enmity for the player who summoned it.
    Pets will no longer be displayed in the party list.
    Pet HP will no longer be displayed when targeted."
    Yes, they do; you're reading to much into it.
    I'll admit that the wording is misleading, but the pet skills are still there, we know as much from the Media Tour.
    It also literally says they're still there, right below the part you bolded:
    * Actions executed by pets have been moved to the Pet category of the Actions tab.
    Wouldn't have to move them if they were gone.

    All that change does is create actions similar to Enkindle where you press it to let your pet know which action to use.
    Its there to clean up your UI so you can manage your pet's skills more effectively without having to set each to your hotbars seperately; especially important since we're now encouraged to swap them regularly.

    Pet Healthbars being removed and their skills handled differently going forward are also largely unrelated btw; either change could have happened without the other, both changes just happen to be made at the same time.

    As for pets still being targetable:
    Pets can no longer be targeted by player or enemy actions.
    Pet HP will no longer be displayed when targeted.
    First line doesn't say pets become untargetable as a whole, it specifies player and enemy actions.
    Second line also doesn't say they become untargetable, it merely states pet HP won't be displayed when they are targeted (due to Pet HP being gone).
    The second one in particular implies they'll still be targetable.
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    Last edited by ArcaneCarbuncle; 06-26-2019 at 11:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaneCarbuncle View Post
    Yes, they do; you're reading to much into it.
    I'll admit that the wording is misleading, but the pet skills are still there, we know as much from the Media Tour.
    It also literally says they're still there, right below the part you bolded:

    Wouldn't have to move them if they were gone.

    All that change does is create actions similar to Enkindle where you press it to let your pet know which action to use.
    Its there to clean up your UI so you can manage your pet's skills more effectively without having to set each to your hotbars seperately; especially important since we're now encouraged to swap them regularly.

    Pet Healthbars being removed and their skills handled differently going forward are also largely unrelated btw; either change could have happened without the other, both changes just happen to be made at the same time.




    They will be merged and the Egi Action I & II will change according to the corresponding pet. 3 of the 9 pet actions they formally had have been removed though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disturbedcobra View Post




    They will be merged and the Egi Action I & II will change according to the corresponding pet. 3 of the 9 pet actions they formally had have been removed though.

    Live Letter 51
    Refer to my post, I literally explained how it (seems to) work, based off of both the Patchnotes as well as Media Tour Information.
    These Slides are usually overly simplified and are often even slightly mistranslated; taking them as proof for anything if there is more reliable information out there is generally unwise.
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