Gender change and Mog Station items

[Ranhansha]

It's not a waste of money unless the items are deleted from your inventory upon gender change. You'll get tired of being a bunny and switch back and your items will still be there waiting to be donned again. No money wasted. ....except for buying the fantasia to switch to the fotm race.

It is because I won't be able to use them on my character, which is the reason I bought them. Instead, they will be taking up inventory space. Also, how do you know I'll get tired of playing a bunny? Even if that were the case, I think I would still have the right to use the items I paid for. Especially since I bought them for a character. It will technically be the same character, just different appearance.

How is your money wasted? You bought those items with your current character in mind. If you were to fantasia into any female race you would encounter the very same issue. I'd be looking at things a little differently, and changing genders will now give you access to a whole theme park of glamours you previously did not have access to.

I do understand where you are coming from though. For the money spent, being able to trade a piece of gear from one gender for another seems perfectly reasonable, but it's all about the benjamins.

You're right when you say I would have a lot of new glamours, but the main point is the money it costs. Of course, being a game in which you can get a lot of different items for both genders I wouldn't be upset about having to get the opposite version. However, this is real money, as you said, and there is no other way to get it than spending money again, so you would have the same set twice but without the possibility to use one of them.

If this is just something devs overlooked, I guess it would be east to be fixed. We know they are in favour of getting both versions of items acquired in previous events or in the Mog Station either by trade or simply with Gil. However, the other possibility would be greedy business, which feels really bad. Paying for a Fantasia shouldn't have any kind of drawbacks, from my point of view. Especially for those players who took an extra step to support them.

[CazzT]

It is because I won't be able to use them on my character, which is the reason I bought them. Instead, they will be taking up inventory space. Also, how do you know I'll get tired of playing a bunny? Even if that were the case, I think I would still have the right to use the items I paid for. Especially since I bought them for a character. It will technically be the same character, just different appearance.

You're not losing the items. It's your choice to change or not. If you choose to change, you're making the choice to not use items you know are restricted. Therefore, it's not waste. You knew when you bought those items that they were restricted. What you have is buyer's remorse. You haven't wasted your money.

As for whether you get tired of being a bunny, I don't know if you will, but it's currently a FOTM thing, and most people grow bored of FOTM. (Flavor Of The Month) You may be one of the few who don't.

[Ranhansha]

It's not a waste of money unless the items are deleted from your inventory upon gender change. You'll get tired of being a bunny and switch back and your items will still be there waiting to be donned again. No money wasted. ....except for buying the fantasia to switch to the fotm race.

You're not losing the items. It's your choice to change or not. If you choose to change, you're making the choice to not use items you know are restricted. Therefore, it's not waste. You knew when you bought those items that they were restricted. What you have is buyer's remorse. You haven't wasted your money.

As for whether you get tired of being a bunny, I don't know if you will, but it's currently a FOTM thing, and most people grow bored of FOTM. (Flavor Of The Month) You may be one of the few who don't.

You sure seem to think you know a lot about how people feel better than them :s
It's not buyer's remorse. I bought the items I bought because I thought they had an amazing design and would have bought the female version if I had had a female character at the time. I also bought the mount and I have said nothing about it because it can be used by anyone. I never thought about the gender restriction because I wasn't thinking about changing, even so I could have never imagined the gender lock issue and when I thought of becoming a Viera I was sure I would be able to change them because I knew you could trade similar items in the game. It was only yesterday, when I was getting ready for ShB when I realised. The thing is there is no point in having them being gender locked when you have to pay for them and when you have to pay in order to change into a gender locked race. I am losing the capacity to use an item I bought on my character, which is the reason I bought it in the first place.

[Gemina]

It is because I won't be able to use them on my character, which is the reason I bought them. Instead, they will be taking up inventory space. Also, how do you know I'll get tired of playing a bunny? Even if that were the case, I think I would still have the right to use the items I paid for. Especially since I bought them for a character. It will technically be the same character, just different appearance.



You're right when you say I would have a lot of new glamours, but the main point is the money it costs.

You've already received the value for what you paid for, so you haven't lost or wasted money. Those items won't vanish because you fantasia to a different gender, and will still be in your possession. Yes, they are no longer usable but this is a circumstance of your decision to change genders. Those are going to exist wherever there are restrictions and you choose to change something. It could be race, gender, grand company, free company, main job etc.

Changing to Viera will likely blindside you in at least one of several ways. Even stuff you won't lose access to might not quite be the same. Hairstyles, emotes, and especially glamour choices you've unlocked all might not be to your liking on your bunny. It intangibles like this how people predict that people will change back after playing their bunny for a month or so. The only way I can think of to truly avoid all of that is to start a fresh character, but going through the grind again is not everyone's cup of tea.

[SturmChurro]

Changing to Viera will likely blindside you in at least one of several ways. Even stuff you won't lose access to might not quite be the same. Hairstyles, emotes, and especially glamour choices you've unlocked all might not be to your liking on your bunny.

You don't have to worry about that! They apparently can't use any hairstyles but their racial ones!

[Ranhansha]

You've already received the value for what you paid for, so you haven't lost or wasted money. Those items won't vanish because you fantasia to a different gender, and will still be in your possession. Yes, they are no longer usable but this is a circumstance of your decision to change genders. Those are going to exist wherever there are restrictions and you choose to change something. It could be race, gender, grand company, free company, main job etc.

Changing to Viera will likely blindside you in at least one of several ways. Even stuff you won't lose access to might not quite be the same. Hairstyles, emotes, and especially glamour choices you've unlocked all might not be to your liking on your bunny. It intangibles like this how people predict that people will change back after playing their bunny for a month or so. The only way I can think of to truly avoid all of that is to start a fresh character, but going through the grind again is not everyone's cup of tea.

I understand the state of things. I know how things are, but I don't think it is fair. Also, I would rather play a male character, but they don't offer that possibility for Vieras, which makes the issue even more unfair. You mention other restictions, but the difference is those don't involve real money. If I change GC I will be able to do so free of charge and get all their items and mounts ingame. If I use Fantasia to change my race, I'll be able to buy their racial exclusive items ingame too. However, if I use a Fantasia to change my gender, I'll lose value on the money I have spent. If I change into a Viera, everytime I open my glamour dresser and see any of the items I'll think: "There goes my money for not being a fortuneteller."

To make things clear again, I understand the situation, but I think it's wrong to make players feel bad when they are forced to choose either to spend over 13 euros again or lose the value of their items because they weren't able to see the future 2 years before. After all, the experience should be focused on making players comfortable and happy. I'm not asking them to give free items or to lose money. It has already been bought. I just think it should be made tradeable like other items or unisex like they seemed to be heading with some previous decisions.

[CazzT]

You sure seem to think you know a lot about how people feel better than them :s
It's not buyer's remorse. I bought the items I bought because I thought they had an amazing design and would have bought the female version if I had had a female character at the time. I also bought the mount and I have said nothing about it because it can be used by anyone. I never thought about the gender restriction because I wasn't thinking about changing, even so I could have never imagined the gender lock issue and when I thought of becoming a Viera I was sure I would be able to change them because I knew you could trade similar items in the game. It was only yesterday, when I was getting ready for ShB when I realised. The thing is there is no point in having them being gender locked when you have to pay for them and when you have to pay in order to change into a gender locked race. I am losing the capacity to use an item I bought on my character, which is the reason I bought it in the first place.

Then you haven't wasted your money. You admit you're happy with your purchase. You got what you wanted and you knew what you were getting when you bought it. Not liking that you can't do more with what you bought, after knowing what the restrictions on it are, is just silly. It tells you when you're buying it that it's for male or female only for the items that are.

If it's not buyer's remorse, then it's throwing a tantrum. Take your pick.

I understand the state of things. I know how things are, but I don't think it is fair. Also, I would rather play a male character, but they don't offer that possibility for Vieras, which makes the issue even more unfair. You mention other restictions, but the difference is those don't involve real money. If I change GC I will be able to do so free of charge and get all their items and mounts ingame. If I use Fantasia to change my race, I'll be able to buy their racial exclusive items ingame too. However, if I use a Fantasia to change my gender, I'll lose value on the money I have spent. If I change into a Viera, everytime I open my glamour dresser and see any of the items I'll think: "There goes my money for not being a fortuneteller."

To make things clear again, I understand the situation, but I think it's wrong to make players feel bad when they are forced to choose either to spend over 13 euros again or lose the value of their items because they weren't able to see the future 2 years before. After all, the experience should be focused on making players comfortable and happy. I'm not asking them to give free items or to lose money. It has already been bought. I just think it should be made tradeable like other items or unisex like they seemed to be heading with some previous decisions.

It's not a matter of fairness. They made a product with restrictions that they clearly notify the buyer about. Saying "it's not fair" when you ignore the product description is just childish.

[Skivvy]

These forums sure do like to defend shoddy game systems.

[Ranhansha]

Then you haven't wasted your money. You admit you're happy with your purchase. You got what you wanted and you knew what you were getting when you bought it. Not liking that you can't do more with what you bought, after knowing what the restrictions on it are, is just silly. It tells you when you're buying it that it's for male or female only for the items that are.

If it's not buyer's remorse, then it's throwing a tantrum. Take your pick.


It's not a matter of fairness. They made a product with restrictions that they clearly notify the buyer about. Saying "it's not fair" when you ignore the product description is just childish.

We clearly have different opinions and different manners, so let's leave it here.

[Bearded]

Gender restricted Mog station gear, unlike "generic" gear actually looks very different based upon the gender. You pay your $$$ and get the look you want with the knowledge that it is restricted to that character and that gender.

If you then decide to change genders then sorry - if you want the vanity items also you have to cough up the extra. Just like if you went through it in RL and ball gowns or tuxedos cost a lot.