BLM 15min wrong?

[Psion]

Maybe they should make it so burst is instant cast, and grants a manafont effect for 30-60 seconds?

[StateAlchemist]

I have used Burst with 1 HP after using Convert to combo it off of Thundara, and even then it's damage was still only barely higher then Thundaga. I will not be using this spell much. Only benefit I see from it is its low MP cost. That's it. Worthless.

[SirOleas]

The low MP cost and slightly -higher- damage is nice. Specially since it can be part of the combo.
Just because its not stupid high damage doesn't make it worthless.
So yes, I do know what I'm talking about.
You're just a fool who asks stupid questions.

[Fated]

The low MP cost and slightly -higher- damage is nice. Specially since it can be part of the combo.
Just because its not stupid high damage doesn't make it worthless.
So yes, I do know what I'm talking about.
You're just a fool who asks stupid questions.

I never said Burst is worthless, I said Burst should not be the Black Mage 15 minute ability. You clearly don't know what you're talking about if you are arguing that Burst is an acceptable 15 minute ability. It's not situationally useful the way almost every other 15 minute job ability is. The fact that Burst is part of a combo is even more reason why it should be an ability that can be used with some regularity. Are you going to argue that Dragon Kick or Steel Cyclone should be 15 minute abilities too instead of Hundred Fists and Mighty Strikes?

[SirOleas]

Why would convert be a good 15 minute since you're so hell bent on it.
THM whined and whined and moaned and groaned about not being able to recover MP like WHM could. Why would you want convert to be 15 minutes? That doesn't make ANY sense. Come back when you have an actual suggestion that makes sense. Then you can talk to me about knowing about the job.

[Fated]

Why would convert be a good 15 minute since you're so hell bent on it.
THM whined and whined and moaned and groaned about not being able to recover MP like WHM could. Why would you want convert to be 15 minutes? That doesn't make ANY sense. Come back when you have an actual suggestion that makes sense. Then you can talk to me about knowing about the job.

I never agreed that Convert should be the Black Mage 15 minute ability. However, Convert would still be a more logical 15 minute ability than Burst. My suggestion in the THM/BLM section was that Convert's slot be replaced with Burst and the BLM 15 minute ability becomes Manafont. Manafont would be an ability that you use in an "oh shit" scenario to nuke down that last bit needed.

This change would also coincide with most of the other jobs' 15 minute ability. PLD gets Hallowed Ground (Invincible from FFXI), WHM gets Benediction, MNK gets Hundred Fists, WAR gets Mighty Strikes, BRD gets Battle Voice (very similar to Soul Voice from FFXI). The only one that is relatively unique is DRG's Dragonfire Dive, which is still worthy of being a 15 minute ability as it does a lot of damage and is AoE and could easily be situationally useful. The new potions and Bard's Ballad of Magi have made MP problems a lot less significant as well.

[MystinaValeth]

I would HATE to have convert as the 15! >.<" screw that sh**

Also, Burst is seriously lacking in every aspect! It should be much stronger or have some sort of added de-buff effect or something. I really hope they some how make Burst stronger in a future update, cause currently its pathetic! I thought Yoshi-P said he liked black mages, so why is their 15 minute so damn lame?

[Antanias]

I would HATE to have convert as the 15! >.<" screw that sh**

Also, Burst is seriously lacking in every aspect! It should be much stronger or have some sort of added de-buff effect or something. I really hope they some how make Burst stronger in a future update, cause currently its pathetic! I thought Yoshi-P said he liked black mages, so why is their 15 minute so damn lame?

I remember seeing an ability on the initial Class Action/Reform List that was posted back in December that was to Manafont from ff11. Perhaps that was to be the 15min ability, but was set aside for perhaps an eventual level cap. Looking at the five abilities BLM got this patch, it's really hard to guess which of them could take a backseat to Manafont's "near-twin".

[Synapse]

You can't increase Convert recast time!! because that would reveal which players fails at using MP properly.

[Riv]

Ultima go.