Thread: What's your predictions for each healer for 5.0 ?

The expansion is coming soon and with all the discussions we have gone through, maybe everyone have taken a stance now.

So I would like to hear about of what do you think will happen for every healer.
What will be the general feeling, advantages, disadvantages about them ?
What will be the dominant healer role and the dominant healers duo ?
Let's see if our predictions will be correct.


For me, I think SCH will have too many (powerful) tools for manage every situation which will allow him to rule the healer role. I think some will still be upset by the simplification of dps part (and being incredibly boring in dungeon and solo).
People will start thinking about solo heal or even bringing two SCH in party.

AST will be too weak overall and Noct stance will not be bring while you have the opportuniy to take SCH. The new card system will be liked by some and hated by others. New visual skills will be liked. The Celestial Intersection, Earthly Star and Neutral Sect will be the only very good main actions of the job, and it could be enough coupled with a SCH.

WHM will be played a lot for the mana security and strong healing recovery because of the apprehension of the start of a new expansion (meaning possibly changes in healing requirement, mechanics, etc). People will enjoy it a lot in dungeons and against adds. Temperance effect/visual and other new visual skills will be appreciated.
The lack of free mobility, raid buff and Aoe shields will be still a big disadvantage compared to others.

So concerning the duo of healers, I think the general trend (in savage) will be 65% WHM/SCH, 30% AST/SCH and 5% WHM/AST.

Originally Posted by Knoahl

I think depending on how piety scales solo healing might become a lot more dominant depending, not sure about double SCH with how the shields don't stack but I suppose with the new faerie spells and how they have lots of ogcds, it's not like it couldn't work, just seems odd to not bring an AST for the damage up maybe. IDK

I agree with the SCH being really strong though, shields are always potent and the faerie combined with the new sacred soil will likely be really good too, plus lets face it, SCH's will never stop dpsing lmao even if we had one button and no dot.

I don't know, one button and no dots, I might as well put shields and soil around the tank and use /cheerjump while he and the dps are hacking away at the pull while Lily is embracing him with the amount of mitigation they'll still have.
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Honestly speaking still, I need to see what the solo duties are gonna be like because if I'm just expected to "heal heal heal", either healers better get some insane damage buff for those targets or the allied AI better be doing some dumb damage and taking heavy amounts of it to warrant losing dps options and receiving the extra traits and abilities when it comes to jumping the villain or other.

The piety change has me questioning a lot of things, especially how much armor will it actually be on and why it suddenly became a "main stat" but tenacity didn't.

But anyway, I can kind of agree with sch having a lot of tools for a situation, but, those mana costs really had me sinking so it ties back to what Knoa says about piety, on top of losing the ability to load your aether before a fight even begins now to bypass the cd when needed or wanted.

Still not agreeing with how bad the overhealing is gonna be though just to not have aether just sitting there unable to be used for damage contribution/mana sustain, but I guess now there's more options to use the Fairy gauge for at least beyond "Who's a good boy/girl? You are, yes you are, now let's go for a walk <t>."

As for Ast, I feel for them that they're losing their card options for 20 flavors of "Balance", but I don't know too much else about them since I never played one and would opt not to speak of them from the outside perspective and get it ostensibly wrong on what does what.

Whm, cool wings I guess, still the reliable healer, but that system of "wait or overheal to the extreme" for an aoe makes very little sense to me.

Overall, really hoping I'm not gonna literally fall asleep playing this expansion as a healer unless I'm playing with my tank friend cause there's too many dps as is.

To be honest, I think it will be the same it is now.
All healers will be able to heal every content and because WHM still does not have any (offensive) raid buffs, the meta will be AST / SCH.
I can see people saying that WHM is more fun to play than the other two, especially because of the lazy card changes and the skills SCH lost, but I can't see it being part of the meta.
Meaning after all this time the healer balance "problem" still isn't addressed. To be honest I rather would have more complex and interesting healer designs than "balanced" healers, fun > balance, but maybe that's just me.

Edit: I think that potencys will be adjusted, if AST potencys are too low or it has too many mana problems, resulting in it being meta again.

It's really hard to say and IMHO it boils down to how the MP economy looks whilst we are under geared at the start of the expansion.

SCH is a pretty safe shoe in at this stage. If MP looks tight to the extent of how WHM was in A12S, then I can see WHM/SCH being the go to for progression with AST most likely to come on strong as people get geared up.

Will happen:
It will most likely be the same as it was in Stormblood with duty finder becoming increasingly an inconsistent experience as the top and middle tiers of experienced players leave duty finder pugging for statics, raid content, and activities allowing the weaknesses and short comings of the new kits will be stressed. And, they will inevitably have to re-balance jobs

Might happen:
MP management problems, or problems due to the lack of general utility occur and old skill will be added back to player tool kits or existing abilities will be adjusted

Not: Black mages will stop standing in poo