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    What's the reason (or reasons) new jobs aren't added to the initial roster?

    By which I mean the roster of classes available to you when you're new to the game. Hypothetically speaking, they would be starting from level 1, with the only requirement being that you own the respective expansion.

    I'd never really given this much thought, since I've always been at cap when an expansion drops and have met the requirements, but I recently ran into a situation in which I convinced a friend of mine to get the game. Something that influenced his decision was the idea of playing the samurai job. He's still going to play, but was bummed with the prospect of having to level til 50 to unlock something he would've liked to play from the get-go.

    Not that leveling to 50 takes a long time, of course, what with the changes to experience distribution to the 2.X content, but it'd be nice to have these options available to the newbies.
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    Edit: Misunderstood that.

    Classes are locked because they require a bit more skill to play. Not much. Also they are DLC content. Why should DLC classes start at level 1?
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    I think because that would require more work. They would have to make more job quests, more weapons all the way up from 1-80.

    At least, that's just what i think.
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    Because Yoshi-P said so. No level 1 Samurai for your friend.
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    Well, in this situation, the person would have already paid for the DLC. I'm thinking, ideally you could, as someone already at endgame, start them at level 50, while someone who's new to the game could start at 1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazama999 View Post
    Well, in this situation, the person would have already paid for the DLC. I'm thinking, ideally you could, as someone already at endgame, start them at level 50, while someone who's new to the game could start at 1.
    Or we can just not give the developers extra work that is completely pointless.
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    Yes, all classes have skills that they get at the proper levels from Level 1+, they don't have access to weapons and such from the same levels, not counting glamour weapons that are added. As well as them having to add additional class quests/lore to those lower levels as well.

    I do wish classes would start at somewhat lower levels, but that's just so people aren't given a high level class they don't know how to play in the slightest.
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    Last edited by Bacent; 06-22-2019 at 06:42 AM. Reason: Typo
    Please show support for chocobo boots to be added -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/323512-Suggestion-for-an-item-to-be-added-to-gold-saucer-Chocobo-Boots

    Unhappy with how they implemented Mahjong? -> http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/381358-Mahjong-is-the-most-depressing-mini-game-you-ve-added-to-XIV

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven View Post
    Or we can just not give the developers extra work that is completely pointless.
    I don't think it's pointless. Having a greater variety of choice in the initial roster would certainly be a plus for someone who's just starting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hazama999 View Post
    I don't think it's pointless. Having a greater variety of choice in the initial roster would certainly be a plus for someone who's just starting.
    For the HW jobs, they'd need to write and design another 81 new job quests in total. The investment does not seem worth the return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    For the HW jobs, they'd need to write and design another 81 new job quests in total. The investment does not seem worth the return.
    I suppose they could just not have them start any job quests until they reach the original requirement level, that is, 30 for the HW jobs and 50 for the SB jobs.
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