@Mychael: Holy is actually quite strong, even without Cleric stance up and wearing WHM AF I was doing around 1.1k damage to the Stronghold enemies I was fighting. My Stonera gets up to 1.3k on the same enemies but that's at the end of its combo, with Cleric Stance, 282 INT, and 470ish Magic attack from my CNJ solo gear. I need to see how much damage it does with my CNJ solo gear.