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    Player
    Missbone's Avatar
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    Fiona Silverstorm
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 90

    Glamour Dresser Update - Why so little?

    First of im really happy that they finally do something about the glamour dresser and increasing the storage space to 400 is real nice and at least for me more than enough.

    However the space was never a issue for me, even now i have still 10 slots left. On the other hand the extrem little glamour plates you can save are a real problem.

    Sure its nice that they increased them to 15 but thats still nothing. I realy cant understand why they dont increase them to a decent amout like 30, 40 or more. There are not even enough plates to save one outfit for each job.

    I think they should at least give us the option to buy more slots in the moggle store, im pretty sure there are a lot of people that would buy some.
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    SE stated that they can't increase inventory space for players because that would be too much information for the world visiting feature to handle. I suspect the reasoning for getting only five extra glam plates is the same, because that is additional character information the game must track.
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    Yorshka Agriche
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    Shiva
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    Dancer Lv 90
    I hoped that we could have at least on plate of each class. Oh well...
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    Aivi Kupo
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    SE stated that they can't increase inventory space for players because that would be too much information for the world visiting feature to handle. I suspect the reasoning for getting only five extra glam plates is the same, because that is additional character information the game must track.
    But they servers can handle extra retainer info?
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    Saccharin's Avatar
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    Blue Kitty
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 84
    Quote Originally Posted by Aivi_lo View Post
    But they servers can handle extra retainer info?
    Any extra sub cures that limitation. Funny that.
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    Player
    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aivi_lo View Post
    But they servers can handle extra retainer info?
    You can't use retainers when you're not in your home server.

    Also retainer info is likely stored differently because you don't carry retainers around with you. You need to access them with the summoning bell, so that is when the information is requested from the server. Whereas for things like glam plates and your personal inventory, all that is constantly carried on your character. When you visit another server all that info your character is carrying needs to be tracked.

    The reason why we cannot access retainers on other servers has something to do with how that information is accessed (retainer info is tied to servers, likely a side effect of how selling on the mb works) rather than world visiting itself presenting a roadblock.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 06-16-2019 at 12:26 AM. Reason: phrasing

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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    You can't use retainers when you're not in your home server.

    Also retainer info is likely stored differently because you don't carry retainers around with you. You need to access them with the summoning bell, so that is when the information is requested from the server. Whereas for things like glam plates and your personal inventory, all that is constantly carried on your character. When you visit another server all that info your character is carrying needs to be tracked.

    The reason why we cannot access retainers on other servers has something to do with how that information is accessed (retainer info is tied to servers, likely a side effect of how selling on the mb works) rather than world visiting itself presenting a roadblock.
    Except you've just given the solution to that problem. If the problem is how it interacts with the world visit system, then you just disconnect those. Already can't access retainers during a world visit... don't let us access the glamour dresser during a world visit. Problem solved.

    Far more likely is that their database design and system design here is completely pants-on-head.
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    Kyssa Shay
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    Siren
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    Reaper Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    SE stated that they can't increase inventory space for players because that would be too much information for the world visiting feature to handle. I suspect the reasoning for getting only five extra glam plates is the same, because that is additional character information the game must track.
    While I understand the explanation they've given, it concerns me that they have coded things in such an inefficient way. But I'll admit there's a lot of "behind the curtain" that I don't know and it could be it has to be coded like that to not break other things. Sometimes you can code yourself into a corner and then you have to work with the mess you've made, even if that mess is a masterpiece.
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    Vaida Tharne
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    Spriggan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Except you've just given the solution to that problem. If the problem is how it interacts with the world visit system, then you just disconnect those. Already can't access retainers during a world visit... don't let us access the glamour dresser during a world visit. Problem solved.
    Pretty sure it would go like this :
    The dresser is linked to glamour plates that can be linked to gear sets. So essentially they can't disable the dresser in world visit without disabling gear sets too.

    And the reason for all this is probably like you said : pants-on-head database/system design.
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  10. #10
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    would you really want to be on another world and stuck with the glam you have and not be able to change it? the shock and horror!!
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